Thriving in Nature's Chill The Hunter's Guide

Speaker 2: 0:22

Welcome back to the Garden State Outdoors and Podcast presented by Boondocks Hunting. I'm your host, mike Natray. I'm Peyton Smith. Welcome back everyone. It is our first episode of 2024. Peyton, it's been a couple of weeks since you've been on. I think you were. The last episode you did was our Christmas episode. You were with the girlfriend in a way for the New Year's Eve episode or New Year's episode. How's it been? We haven't talked to you in a little bit on here. So what's been going on?

Speaker 1: 0:55

It's been good. I haven't been doing as much hunting as I would have liked. I got out for one deer hunt and maybe three duck hunts over the last couple of weeks, so it was good Shot a bunch of sea ducks down in Maryland, some skaters, some old squaw, some baffle heads. It was good Shot a handful. Got in the last deer hunt in Maryland of the year, which didn't really see much. But then Christmas, obviously everything on my list was hunting and fishing related. So I got a lot of new gear to try out, which I'm excited. I also had my birthday, so got a bunch of new stuff. My birthday is New Year's Day.

Speaker 2: 1:47

You didn't tell anybody. You let anyone know that your birthday was New Year's Day. Did you even post about it on your page?

Speaker 1: 1:54

No, no, you know, not a big birthday guy.

Speaker 2: 1:58

We don't do something on birthdays. Well, happy belated birthday, man. I wish I would have known, because I'm bad with birthdays, but once I know someone I have to put it in my phone. If I don't put it in my phone I'll forget, but you have a really easy one to remember. That's one of the easier ones. That's like Joe over at guys His birthday is on Christmas, so it's like Terrible.

Speaker 1: 2:26

But he's Jewish though. Oh, okay, well, that's not.

Speaker 2: 2:29

Yeah. So it's like damn, that's it. That's the easy one to remember. So every year I go to say Merry Christmas. I'm like wait, no, happy birthday.

Speaker 1: 2:41

That's awesome, then never have to work on your birthday either.

Speaker 2: 2:44

Yeah, no, always going to have off during the Christmas, also when you're growing up, also during the Christmas holiday break usually. So too, like you get usually that week and everything like that. So that's not a bad birthday. I wouldn't want it on Christmas, but I guess if you weren't Catholic or you didn't believe in Christmas, it's not a bad birthday to have.

Speaker 1: 3:09

No, no, it's actually a great birthday. But yeah, got to launch a new Haunting Gear, got a new climbing stick set up. I know Mike knows what I was running before, which was incredibly heavy, so I got a sweet Christmas gift there. I'm switching from the Muddy One Sticks and the Hawkelyum Apex platform to the Tethered Predator platform and the XOP 2.0 sticks X2 sticks. Just the difference already is huge. They're so much lighter. My setup has the weight to cut in half, not running buckles or running versus straps, which also cuts down on the weight. But you've seen how I've held it together before and I've actually thought that I'd want to switch that up. Now that it's lighter but I'd light enough to hold the sticks of the pack, I'm actually sticking with what I've got for now. That's not to say I won't switch it up down the road.

Speaker 2: 4:12

It's a long off season.

Speaker 1: 4:14

Yeah, it is a long off season. I got to figure that out. I want to try to get some reps in with it here early late bow season. Just to try to figure it out, because I got to.

Speaker 1: 4:25

As you know, it's like you think you stealth stripped everything until you put up that last stick and you've been so quiet getting in setting up and then you find that one little sliver of metal on metal that you forgot to cover up and then it just echoes three zip codes over. I had to buy more stealth strip because I thought I got it all and not even close. Metal was like steel buckle from the platform, hit a blank spot on the platform and it's just so loud it is echoed. But yeah, got to getting geared up and caught us a bit of a second wind, I think, the last few days. I didn't hunt this last weekend, even though I could have. I just had other stuff going on but I could have found some time. But now I think this weekend I'm getting excited again to go, maybe on Sunday night or if I have some time. But it was just funny because this is the weekend that I don't have hardly any time.

Speaker 2: 5:28

Yeah, yeah yeah, and it's something that we've talked about a lot this last year here, and it's a long season and it's a grilling season. You know, those first few months, I'd say, especially for us being in New Jersey. We have the second week on in September and we're going basically full drive from September all the way till probably Thanksgiving and maybe even into the December, but really like Thanksgiving, up until Thanksgiving we're on full drive, we're on full go, and from the beginning of the season it only ramps up and once we get into that mid-late October, then it's like everything is just full drive. We are pushing, we're pushing as hard as we can. We're doing a lot of scouting, we're doing a lot of hunting.

Speaker 2: 6:27

I think there is one point that you and I were up every morning, we would go out, we'd hunt all day, we'd meet up to talk about it for like a good 20, 30 minutes drive home, especially for you. You're facing the longer drive and everything like that, with traffic and everything like that. So by the time you get home, you eat, yada, yada, yada, you lay your head back down, you're getting right back up for the next hunt in the morning and the process repeats itself. So your body.

Speaker 1: 7:01

Did you do that three days in a row a couple of times? Yeah, it takes its toll the way you hunt. Yeah, it's probably why I'm sick all fall.

Speaker 2: 7:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it, not as bad as Bobby, but you definitely did get a. Bobby got a rough.

Speaker 1: 7:16

Yeah, bobby got a rough, bobby got it again right now.

Speaker 2: 7:19

Yeah, I was going to say that. You know, I wasn't going to say that before we started recording, because I heard the cough and everything like that. I was like, oh you, sick again. But it's also that time of the year too. It's hunting, it's what we're doing. It's winter, it's getting cold, everything is just not only with hunting.

Speaker 2: 7:41

But the Christmas time of the year, it's, you know, the holiday time of year getting presents, family traveling to go see your family and everything like that, spending time with a girlfriend and everything like that and making sure you get your time in with that. And then, you know, now you got another big, crazy weekend before you can really, you know, get it settled down and everything like that. It's a grind. You do need that break in as much as I 100% agree with you I didn't want that break with having COVID, but it was a really nice break just of not doing anything like. No, no hunting for like about a week, and this was my first week back. Um, you know, obviously we're recording on Monday, but I'm talking about, like I think I hunted on Friday, saturday, friday Sunday and then today. So good, good news we finally got our first winter storm in like two years it seems.

Speaker 2: 8:39

That was huge. I mean huge, huge, huge cold weather. We got out and duck hunted the one day that snowed. We weren't going to duck hunt but then we weren't able to. So I went, ended up going to work and then I took full advantage of the next day of getting out with scouting and doing some hunting.

Speaker 2: 8:58

Didn't go necessarily the way I wanted it to go, but it was just so nice, like I really did not care if I saw a deer or if I killed a deer or anything like that. Like just being out in the snow it's snowing while you hunted. Just it felt like a legit winter and how things should be. And I hope you know I know we got some rain on the forecast. I know it's supposed to dip back again this weekend into some real cold weather, but you know it's nice to have that. You know we need that. We seriously do need that and I think it will definitely help if we can get that some snow, so a few more snowfalls on the ground. Some deer are definitely going to hit the ground for late season because they're going to be up on their feet moving and we're going to be able to take full advantage of that.

Speaker 1: 9:50

Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, I think it is. It's definitely changes things up and I think it helps to move the ball back in our favor, because at this time of year, especially on public land, with the pressure and deer going nocturnal, it gets really, really hard. And so then you get things like colder weather, you know, all that brush get knocked down, they're concentrating on food sources, water sources, limited cover. You start to stack the deck a little bit back in your favor. You know, when you kind of had the element of surprise in the early season, when they weren't pressured, they kind of forgot about you know, maybe they don't, maybe they do, but they kind of let their guard down a little bit in the early season, right, and then you kind of get into the rut, which you know was weird, really weird, I think this year for me, I think my I never had a true hunt this year and that's it.

Speaker 1: 10:42

I think this is going to help stack the deck in the favor. I'm looking forward to actually what I'm going to do this year and just shake things up. The winner is just start over and find some new spots to hunt, just do a scout and get back to the roots of still hunting. That is when I think I'm going to spend my winter time doing it. Get in early, maybe go in at noon still hunting, or maybe before 11, still hunt into a spot and just walk around and find a good spot. I want to set up on a good enough sign.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Yeah, if you're going to give someone out there who's new to hunting or is struggling a little bit, what is a little bit of advice that you can give for this time of the year with pressure, deer, hopefully the cold weather coming in? What is one thing that you would really focus on?

Speaker 1: 11:38

Yeah, I think this time of year, with them being so pressure, I've seen some studies from the Mississippi State Deer Lab where they track buck movement in accordance with pressure. The bucks that were in the high-pressure areas limited their range to next to nothing. I think what's important to focus on is it's not good enough for a spot you talk about food, cover, water. It's not good enough for a spot to just have one. You got to find where those three things meet because they're not going to be moving far, especially in a state with New Jersey with high deer density.

Speaker 1: 12:25

If you find a spot where those three things meet and you find it, you get a snowstorm where you can see how deer use an area in a 24-hour period, pretty much Just by looking at tracks in the snow. That might be something that I'm going to look for, because just food or just water or just cover, it's probably not going to be good enough, especially now that deer they're not going to range to this food source, especially at the oak crop we got. There's oaks everywhere you got to find in proximity to food and water. You got to find where those three you're going to find that overlap Like think Venn diagram. You're going to find that spot in the center, I think.

Speaker 2: 13:08

Yeah, I have to agree with that. Also, something I would say is really keep an eye on the weather. The weather is going to end. It goes back like we need the snow, we need this. But if you know there's a snowstorm, or not even a snowstorm, you know if there's a big freeze coming where the temperatures for the next few days are going to be single digits, maybe even like 15, 20 degrees, something like that, for a few days. Take serious time out to try and go hunt. Then you're looking for anything that's green. There's anything that's green leftover at this time of the year. Use that, too, as your key, especially in if everything's freezing over or if there is snow on the ground, and so a lot of the food source, like the oaks that we have had, fall crazy, and I know there's still red oaks on the ground, I believe black oaks, black oaks on the ground, stuff like that like they will eat that in the late season. So try to focus on if the snow is covered, find whatever green you can and try to go from there and put in your time there. But the weather is going to be very important.

Speaker 2: 14:24

Then one more key. We could talk a little more about this later. But dress correctly, especially if you're bow hunting. I think wearing the proper clothing is crucial because you need to be warm, because the warm you are, the later you're going to stay, the better chance you have staying out there longer, the less likely you are to move so much. To stay warm, but also making sure you don't overdress where you can't pull your bow back correctly, or if you are pulling it back when you let go, your string isn't going to hit something. I think that's a very key. That's probably one of the tougher things, because you want to dress so warm and you want to wear all these layers and everything like that. But find yourself the proper clothing. Don't overdress if you don't have to with the bow. But I think that's a big key right there for hunting in the late season as well, because if you're cold you're going to be miserable and you're not going to want to hunt.

Speaker 1: 15:31

Where you're clothes into. So it's really cold over on the first light solitude jacket and bibs and I can't walk in those. It doesn't really matter how cold it's going to be, I can't walk in those. I'll sweat to death. And then once you sweat and you feel that sweat on dripping down your back, that turns into that chill up your spine and that's when you're really cold. So pack your clothes in. I just got a heated vest like the Milwaukee heated vest that runs off my screwy on batteries. So I think that's going to be a game changer because I can wear that in. It's a relatively light layer but then I can just turn it on and get a couple batteries in my pack and I'll be warm all day. So I think that's something else to consider. I see a lot of companies. I think Tidewee makes heated jackets now yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:28

Yeah, maybe something to consider, Maybe some things are great.

Speaker 2: 16:32

They are great. I used to run one. I'm thinking about getting another one again just because of how useful it is, especially when you're running a bib. Those things are pretty warm, especially if you're looking at first light. Kuyu, sika, something like that. Those do really well in the cold weather. And when you're adding a heated jacket to that, I think it's just even more important and that's really going to keep you good for when you're bow hunting. Sika, I'm going to be warm, but I'm also still going to be mobile too.

Speaker 2: 17:10

Yeah, the other thing yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1: 17:14

That's what I was going to say. If you don't want to do that, the other thing you can do is get. These are heat portable hand warmers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or you could get a well, sometimes wear like a flannel shirt with two pockets and stick one in each pocket, and that'll also help you do the same. And my first light jacket, the Solitude jacket, has pouches scattered throughout the jacket and the bibs where you could jam hand warmers in.

Speaker 2: 17:37

Yep, wow, that's pretty cool. That's a smart, very smart. Never thought of that useful tip right there.

Speaker 1: 17:46

Yeah, I mean not just for your hands. You know it's a little you can. You can bring, bring another set with you. You can do it all day sit, which I find that you'll get eight hours out of them easy.

Speaker 2: 17:56

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ones I use this morning are still nice and hot in the truck right now in my pants, the good hot hands ones.

Speaker 1: 18:04

it does make a difference if they're like the actual hot hands versus if, like I've had, like the Dick's Sporting Good brand or the Walmart brand, is just Agreed agreed. I have the hot hands right now and they are. You got to go. Hot hands, yeah, if it's not hot hands, this is not good enough. It's not as good.

Speaker 2: 18:19

Yeah, but I, you know, I want to piggyback on what you know you said and it's, it's. You know, yeah, don't wear all your layers, and I really don't. I've made that mistake before and you're right. Once that wind picks up and usually in the winter the wind is really picking up You're still. I don't care how many layers you're wearing. If there is sweat and everything that's built up, you're going to feel it and it's going to make you miserable, just absolutely miserable.

Speaker 1: 18:49

Yeah, and kind of like, especially when in the morning, when you get out of your truck and it's cold, you want to put, hurry up, put all your layers on because you're cold. You should leave the truck a little chilly.

Speaker 2: 19:03

That's what I do.

Speaker 1: 19:04

If you've got a long walk you should be cold as you leave the truck and then by the time you get to the tree because you know I sweat the most sometimes getting up the tree yeah, yeah, just like that last little bit. So maybe I think going for it, which is crazy. I'll get to the bottom of the tree and then cool off. You know it's just like. You know it's like that last push at the end of a workout. It's like the hardest part. You know you're like using everything yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:33

I listen, I completely backed that. Like once you get up, and it's crazy, you get up and you set up and everything like that and it's like Jesus Christ, like I'm so hot, like why you know so I would.

Speaker 1: 19:46

I do that. That's what I know. I'm screwed. Yeah, I've done it now.

Speaker 2: 19:51

I take my jacket, I leave my you know my warm jacket and you know, with the you know my sick of bibs and everything like that. I'm like I'm just really zippered all the way down so like everything's flapping and flying open, be the least you know. And it's easy to warm up if you're dry. It is, you know, I much rather suffer and be cold. There's even times when I'm driving in the morning I actually, before I get out to where my spot, actually rolled down my windows I don't and I get in the cold.

Speaker 2: 20:25

I try to just get like you said. I try to get as cold as possible. It sucks sometimes. It also helps me wake up and everything like that. But you know, the one thing is I'll have the heat on blast and you just get so comfortable and used to that once you step outside and everything like that. So I try to get the coldness out the way in my mind and focus on all right, like this is about to be cold. You're about to hike out there and be cold. You're gonna set up, be cold, but then you're gonna layer up and you're gonna get warm. I do that all the time on a windy day. I do it all the time, whether it's a morning hunt, afternoon hunt, I always rather be cold to start my hunt and put layers on and then warm up.

Speaker 1: 21:06

Yeah, yeah, cause, like you know what, like walking versus like sitting dead still is a huge difference on what you need and you'll warm up. You get like a hundred yards from the truck, you're gonna start warming up and you're gonna be fine, you're gonna be comfortable. You know, when I go for a run and like 32 degree weather, I'm wearing just sweatshirt, sweatpants. You know, but if I was sitting still be freezing to death, you know, but I'm like sweating to death. And just like you know, you see people running in shorts in January. You know, it's just, you gotta think about what it's gonna be. When you set up and just kind of put it out of your head, it's like, yeah, it's gonna be cold, I'm gonna suck, it's gonna suck. Now Don't drive with all your hunting clothes, with all your warm clothes on either. And, like you said, I think it's a good tip. It's like roll your windows down, try to get acclimated, so it's not such a shock when you get out of the truck and you're in a rush to get warm again.

Speaker 2: 22:02

And I think, another thing it's on the clothing topic Good warm boots for this time of year is really key. I run three. Honestly, I run three different boots throughout the season. I got my early season boots that I kind of pushed till November Sometimes it's a terrible decision. And then I do have my muck boots, which is for the wet rainy days or snow days like today. And then I have my Cabela winter boots, which I can wear in the snow or just if it's really cold.

Speaker 2: 22:32

I wear wool socks. But honestly, you guys gotta remember is it doesn't really matter, because once you're outside there for a while, you have to remember you are gonna start your feet are gonna start to get cold, your fingers are gonna start to get cold. That's how the human body keeps the cord temperature nice and warm, pulls blood and everything like that away from your extremities and moves it to your core. So it's actually a good thing I've yet to been able to beat something like that. I don't know if you're the if Peyton, if you do the feet warmers. I've never found that the feet warmers work for me.

Speaker 1: 23:08

No, I've never found that they work either. I think you need like oxygen to get that reaction that's in there and you just don't get enough oxygen in your boots. I know people that run. I have a buddy that's. He's really tall, he's 6'6" and so his extremity problem is huge because his extremities are so far away from his core and he runs heated socks because his feet are so bad, his feet get so cold and he runs heated socks. He's the one that told me about the. He runs heated socks, heated jackets. I don't know if he runs heated gloves, but he always wears like thick gloves. But it doesn't matter at that point. Which is kind of the pro of me being a shorter guy is that generally I'll run fingerless gloves and if I just keep my core warm enough, my hands are fine.

Speaker 2: 23:58

I don't. I don't like having. Honestly, I usually tend to have my fingers freezing cold. Sometimes I don't even wear gloves, I just put them in. I just sometimes don't like the feeling of grabbing certain stuff with my bow. Especially in the winter your hands get really dry really quickly. I don't like that feeling. So I actually sometimes rather not wear gloves. But if I am, it has to be the fingerless ones, like it has to be, especially my thumb and this finger, especially for for a bow hunting, like these two have to be. But sometimes, even if a deer comes, sometimes I honestly I take my glove off. I like to feel, you know, my bow in my hands a hundred percent, like I just like the feeling and sometimes a glove takes away from that. So I'm weird like that, but my hands are.

Speaker 1: 24:46

No, I think this brings. A good point, though, is you got to practice shooting with your cold weather deer on A lot of people, kind of put a hand to bow up.

Speaker 2: 24:53

Yeah, a hundred percent. And that's another good to you got to shoot all year around. I, you know I imagine that we've covered this before multiple times but go to the range, go to your backyard If you can throw on your winter gear and shoot. If it's snowing out and you're home, shoot in the snow, you know, shoot on a windy shoot, low light, shoot early in the morning If you can. Also, just like you would practice in, you know, before the season starts. I'm a huge, you know believer in shooting out of the tree almost all year around. If you can climb up in a tree and shoot, you know, with your winter bow stuff on, you know, with you know, because that's very yet again, if you're, you're carrying so much more layers now than you are, obviously in the early season, so you just don't want that string to hit any type of piece of piece of clothing or anything like that and it can seriously alter your shot.

Speaker 1: 25:56

No, I agree, Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 26:00

Yeah, so well, we'll move on. I don't think there's anything else that we we need to cover on that. You know it's it's a tough time to hunt. Guys, be patient, pick your opportunities correctly. I'm honestly just not going out there and just hunting for anything. I've actually kind of let the woods and most my spots like simmer down a lot of nighttime movement.

Speaker 2: 26:23

You know, yet again, besides the last two days with snow, the deer haven't had to move far for food. They really haven't lack of cover. So you got to get, you know, find those tickets, find one. You know, paint instead of all three. You know, just get out there, take your time, move around and you know it will come. We, you know, for most of us we have till mid of February. For other people, some of the people are seasons are actually done already. And then you know, some people close. You know part of the state closes for us at the end of January. So you know, just be patient, it's going to happen. Don't over overdo it, because these deer, all animals, are extremely pressured at this point of the year.

Speaker 1: 27:08

You know, I also find myself doing like every year kind of as you know. I know that I definitely want to get better at deer hunting this time of year as well, but this has generally been my small game hunting time and I kind of see this you know, no leaves on the trees and it's like I want to get in the woods and do some squirrel hunting, and that's another way you can deer hunt that way, or you can not deer scout that way too. Yeah, you can't deer hunt that way, but you can deer scout that way. You know, spend time in the woods find spots.

Speaker 1: 27:36

You know you're just going to be covering the ground. You know it's almost like it's a lot like duck hunting, except you're just hiking. You know you're just walking with your buddies, keeping your eyes up in the trees and trying to get some. A couple of squirrels, yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:53

Now I, you know I get again. Another thing I agree with Winter bow is something that I've working on. I've honestly tell you the truth I've only killed one deer in the winter, only one. I usually do my least amount of hunting in the winter. I've always kind of struggled with hunting late season. Last year my focus was haul on waterfowl last year and not really deer because I had to meet. This year I have to at least get one. You know, maybe even two I wouldn't, or maybe three, but you know I'm not going to, I'm not going to be picky. One has to be right now. I'm working on one, but that will be a lot of work. I'm working on one, but that will be after whatever walks out time.

Speaker 2: 28:42

I don't know if I'm ever at whatever walks time I have a real. I'm completely okay with eating tag soup with a buck. I just am. That's always been my thing, I'm completely fine with that. But if we're talking on the dough, it might be that time for whatever walks out. You know, and those you know, yearling does. Now they're old enough, they're big enough. You know where I think the freezer has to get some meat in it. I just have to window of time to shoot.

Speaker 1: 29:21

Does that? I'm comfortable with is actually getting very short, yeah, so I think you really got a couple weeks before it starts to get a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 2: 29:33

It is a very tough, like I said, I've I've killed it, and I think we had this conversation over the phone. I, you know, the only dough that I killed in the winter was actually the last day of season smaller dough, but I had 19 deer out in front of me, so that was more of fun, like, all right, something definitely needs to be done here, you know, but that was also the last time you had really good snow, like we had a lot of snow that year, and that could have been the reason why there were so many deer, because I was running minerals at that time. You know, there's a, there's a good food source up there, they're browsing up there, so I think it pulled a lot more deer up on this ridge than what normally normally would have been. So and that's where I first saw Kong for the first time was that winner? So it was. It's going to play by ear, as I'm in 100% of grants with you.

Speaker 2: 30:40

Normally I have had my dough is already shot. I've had the buck be, you know, be shot. I've had the meat in the freezer. So it's been a very, very, very long time where I haven't had this. So at some point, as much as I usually don't like. Shooting dough is this late. At some point I have a dough has to get into the freezer. You know what I mean. It just I can't go. What am I going to do? 90 deer meat for you know, and this is the least amount of deer meat I've eaten during the hunting season ever, like Bianca and I were just we're just talking about it. Like usually we're cooking constantly during this time of year. We know there's so much meat to be eaten, like you kind of have no choice but to cook it. So I'm in a really different position. But I don't mind it because I've been there before in my early stages of my career, and I've, you know, been here before, I prepared for it before I've gone through the struggle and I still think it's been a really successful year, in just different ways, you know. So I still got plenty of faith. But yeah, now that's, you know it is.

Speaker 2: 31:49

It is that time of the year where things and you know, then you get a little nervous about shooting a shed buck, gosh forbid. You know that's. That's another thing. It's like gosh forbid, I make that mistake. But you know that's when you really got to focus. And you know, look for the. You know the know the missing antlers and you know the fresh you could tell. But you know it's a little easier than a button book I think. Yeah, yeah, most most definitely off man shooting a buck. They're a pain in the buck. I have one that I was like is that a dough? It's so like difficult to judge. I'm like I was like I'm not going to shoot it and it turned out it was a, it was a button buck. So thank God I, you know, didn't do it.

Speaker 1: 32:28

But it is sometimes really tough.

Speaker 2: 32:33

Yeah, definitely so. Duck ends Thursday. I didn't know that. I think you could still shoot C docs, but like I don't think we're going down and do that or anything like that down down the coast.

Speaker 1: 32:49

Yeah, you need a specific rate to do that. You can't just do that and in anything I really need to have like a decent boat situation.

Speaker 2: 33:02

Generally speaking.

Speaker 1: 33:04

Now, I have shot Buffleheads. I think they consider Buffleheads a sea duck. No, they don't. They don't consider Bufflehead sea duck, it's a diver. Yeah, yeah, you're. I think it's just scooters, long tailed ducks, iders, which I don't think they get iders here. No, I don't, I don't think it.

Speaker 2: 33:24

I've seen one.

Speaker 1: 33:28

But yeah, it's pretty limited, it's, it's your, mainly just surf scooters, black scooters, long tailed ducks and your your iders. But Canadians are until or geese are in general, I think, until the 27th, 29th.

Speaker 2: 33:46

Either 27th or 29th, 27, 20 or 29. One of those days. So we have plenty of time for that. You know Justin and I will. We will be for sure getting out on Thursday. We were going to get out for ducks this morning but with all the snow, the melting snow, you know the rain in certain areas, we thought it would be best if we got out for geese, which you know was definitely the right decision by him. But we will for sure be getting out Thursday for the last day of the season and work.

Speaker 2: 34:17

Called me the the other day Like hey, like can you work on Sunday? I was like no, like I'm not working Sunday. Like I'm going out deer hunting. It's snowed. Like no, hang up. Call me back in, like hey, can you work Thursday? And I started laughing. I go listen any other day I would, because I usually work on Thursday. But I was like it's the last day of duck season, like I want to shoot a mallard, like, or a black duck or something like that, you know, but I still want to fill the fridge with ducks. I do have some, but I want more. Huge, huge fanatic for ducks. So I was like no way, there is a no way I am missing out on the last day of duck season. Unfortunately Peyton won't be won't be joining us this year, but it's just make sure that next year we get them out for for duck season.

Speaker 1: 35:05

I'll think on it. There's a. There's a chance that you know Wednesday rolls around or Tuesday rolls around and it's just like you know whatever one is, one is will take off. They make more leave every day but you know it looks like the weather next week. I'm just looking at it right now and this is where I live, far East, and I see, which means usually it's like five degrees colder. You know out where Mike lives and then further out where we hunt and I'm seeing Wednesday good snow high of 30, tuesday high of 35, friday snow high of 35, lows in the low 20s.

Speaker 2: 35:47

So yeah, oh, tomorrow's supposed to snow now in certain areas.

Speaker 1: 35:52

Interesting, but you know, seems like the weekend after next might be not a bad time to check out what you were talking about, especially if we get some good snow next week.

Speaker 2: 36:06

Yeah, you know, and not only like or maybe that's the week after next, so no, it's going to be the next. So next week, and I was telling Justin, I was like, damn, of course, like next week, great duck hunting, perfect duck hunting, weather like 28,. High of 28, low, 20, high of 27. Yeah, low of 19,. High of 26, low of like. Next week is like the week to duck hunt and of course it's 17.

Speaker 1: 36:36

You would slaughter them. 85% chance of snow. West, northwest, 16 mile an hour winds Probably gusting, high 20s. Yeah, you real feeling the shade 16 degrees. You'd be tearing them up Little icebreaker.

Speaker 2: 36:59

It's crazy, it is, it is.

Speaker 1: 37:02

I'm trying to think of when I feel as though Maryland had a later duck season and I'm trying to remember when that is, but it just feels short to me. But maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. This year just felt shorter.

Speaker 2: 37:13

Like even for Justin, we were like, oh no, we got plenty of time, Like we thought we had at least to the 18th we have. That's why we're like, why Texas won't. I felt like, hey, like yo just let you know, like we we only have till this week, Like we're going, so we're going out this week, yada, yada, yada, yada. But we're just like, damn, like it went by so quick. The whole season flew by really. But yeah, didn't didn't get to hunt ducks nearly as much as we wanted to, but from Saturday you already got me thinking about it again.

Speaker 1: 37:47

Yeah, you should, you should do it. You should.

Speaker 2: 37:49

I might pull the chair, I might have to let work now, tomorrow, and just to let everyone know out there who's hunting in our you know our area, probably on the East coast, something like that the high on Saturday is supposed to be 53. If you want to deer hunt, if you're going to take the day added to deer hunt, it would be that Sunday or that Monday or even that Tuesday, but those are the days because you're going from 53 degrees to 32 degrees as a high Right. The next day is 34 and 24 with snow and then 32 with 14 degrees. So like those are some great hunting days and those are days that I would take advantage to go hunt. Also take advantage to go geese hunt, goose hunt too as well. I'm not going to speak too much on that, I know for ducks it would be great, but Justin, if Justin was here he would be able to tell us.

Speaker 1: 38:47

They all like it, wendy, they all get Wendy, wendy and cold. First of all, you need it to get them to push down, yeah, or else they'll just hang up north. So you need this cold front and it seems like every year, just in my opinion Now, ducks, ducks don't do as well as a lot of other North American species that have recovered. You know I'm not saying ducks are. You know we're at risk of losing all our ducks. But if you look at all the species coming back, like our elk, moose, you know, bears, white-tailed deer, you know it seems like a lot of stuff has made a great rebound, but it's ducks maybe not as much, but it does still seem to me that, you know, as winter has gotten later, you know it's like the cold weather has gotten later in the year.

Speaker 1: 39:40

Whether you like it or not, that is a fact.

Speaker 1: 39:43

You know the cold weather is in January seems like duck season is too late, it ends too early.

Speaker 1: 39:53

You know we're missing the primo time and I remember there was this year in Maryland where duck season ended on a Saturday and then it got a real cold snap and then there was a picture of the Bay Bridge just ducks all the way across the day after the season ends, and it just seems like that's a theme every single year now that the ducks show up.

Speaker 1: 40:15

But the season's over, you know, and maybe that's on purpose, because I know they do do that with turkeys. You know they want the turkeys to get, you know, have a little bit of a chance to breed before people get after them and start shooting them. So they don't want it to be like, you know, full blown. You know, right when they come in, like you would see, with like deer, but and I don't know, I have to do some research on that if there's like a strategy behind that. But pretty good point. It does seem like we're just a week, the season ends a week or two early and you look at the calendar for the weather this year and it just seems to be the case Three days of snow next week, not a day over in the highs, over 30 probably out out West Jersey.

Speaker 2: 40:59

So Especially with the wind, with the wind chill yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:03

Wind blowing 16. When does next Wednesday looks like a duck hunters dream, you know, freezing snow and blowing.

Speaker 2: 41:14

Yeah, now I it's. It's exciting. But you know, before we, we, we end up you know, justin, I was. I was hoping Justin was going to get on, but he's actually driving, Justin did. We did a water fight goose hunt this morning. They went to deer hunt in the afternoon and then they try to get on a coyote at night. So Justin's a little behind. But we went out, me, Justin, and you know one of the guys that he's he's taken out and guiding a new hunter that he's getting involved. Great, great guy Got his first goose today. So congratulations to him.

Speaker 2: 41:49

But, and I think big part of why Justin chose water or goose hunting over duck was because we had to take advantage of the snow on the ground. The decoys stuck out like crazy and it was perfect and exactly I would say probably the first, I don't know 20 or 30 minutes maybe, with us being in the blind. We already had five of our nine down, absolutely just smoked them and then so we're like all right, like we could have limited out, like really quickly. But after that we're like all right, I didn't shoot, I was doing a lot of filming. There's the guy who was, you know, justin was taken out. I think he took a poke at you know a few by himself and everything. So we're trying to get footage and everything like that. So we're, we're blowing some opportunities and stuff like that. And then the guy, you know he took a few shots, even a poke, you know, at one that he probably, you know, even, just like I, probably should have you wait, but like you know, I really want you to blast one out the sky. So you know we took that shot.

Speaker 2: 42:58

And then you know recorder, another coming in and Justin, and you know the guy, they, they shot three more. So then we're at to eight, right, and so the last one was mine. They went to go, the guy went to go pick up Chick-fil-A. And yet again, we're working, we're filming and everything like that. And we, you know, we get more to come in and we have all these one and one solo landed.

Speaker 2: 43:25

So it was like the perfect opportunity to limit out on nine, because, like, we can only shoot one more and none of them he's. So just, all right, just shoot this one, just shoot this one, get up, shoot it. I got it. So it was like, oh, like, perfect thing, just takes off. So I thought I, I thought I knocked it like I was like that's why I didn't shoot another one right away. I shot, reloaded, and then you could see in the video like I waited a little and I was like damn, shot again and then shot again and then I was like I was like I'm going to shoot this one. You know we just see it flying and just get lower, lower, lower, lower, but wait, but way off our property, like it wasn't even anywhere close where we could have it, went past the house and then you could just see it was just going down and I was like this thing could have landed anywhere Like within distance, where you know we could have retrieved it, because you know your Fox is definitely going to get good lunch or maybe the neighbors went out and saw it and maybe you know, because everyone around there hunts like everyone hunts around there, so absolutely fun.

Speaker 2: 44:38

It's been my this is the first year that I'm goose hunting and it has been like today got me hooked on it, like the other days were fun, but today was just like was a blast, and you know we still have plenty more days. You know that we're going to get out and get out and stuff like that. You know, hopefully all four of us can get out stuff like that, and you know the limit goes up to 12. So now you have a little more wiggle room and stuff like that, you know, to get it done and everything like that. A lot of meat filling the freezer with goose meat, got plenty of goose meat in the freezer, just a real good hunt, took some good pictures, got some good footage.

Speaker 2: 45:16

Then we're like screw it, like we're already up here, Like why don't we real quick go hit the pheasant fields and try and see if we can push a pheasant? And you could see, like we could see the tracks in the field. So, like we just did, it was three of us and we didn't have a dog and a lot of stuff was real thick so you could see where the pheasants are actually walking in and out of. We just couldn't flush one up. And then, like I said, they went out deer hunting and I, you know, I believe that Andrew went up to and they saw some dose and everything like that.

Speaker 2: 45:47

So, all in all, you know, for that guy, you know, for a first time, you know, experienced like a he got to hit it all today, got his first goose, you know, got to go pheasant hunting, got to go duck hunting or got to go deer hunting and then ended it with a coyote hunt. You know and that's another thing that I'm really excited for I'm really excited for coyote season. Like I'm a huge coyote hunter, love doing it. You know, got the gun for it. You know, got the call for it, got the lights for it during the day and I can do.

Speaker 1: 46:17

Yeah, I want to get after some rat, get after those nest raiders. Everybody I mean everybody's got to get after those raccoons.

Speaker 2: 46:23

Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2: 46:24

So if there, if there's something and I want to get into trapping, so eventually I do want to take a trapping course, a big, big part of that for that reason. But like if anyone's ever been on the fence or anyone out there is a huge you know huge or just likes turkey hunting whenever you get a chance. Just like you know we shoot coyotes for deer. You got to shoot a coyote for for turkeys. You got to shoot a raccoon for turkeys like nest predator right there, even possums but I don't see as many possums around like I do raccoons, but any chance you get, go out and kill one and if you can go hunt them, you can hunt them at night and it's pretty fun. Like I do enjoy hunting raccoons, it is fun. It's something that we're going to definitely do Do more of this year is hunt some dogs and hunt some raccoons.

Speaker 1: 47:15

That's awesome yeah. I think, I'm going I think I'm going to South Carolina in February for squirrel hunting with dogs for the first time, so I am I'm pretty pumped on that.

Speaker 2: 47:28

Oh snap, have you had, have you had squirrel yet.

Speaker 1: 47:31

Oh yeah, I've eaten squirrel a few times, I know. In college I came home one day with some docs and some squirrel and just kind of mix them all together and fed it to my roommates and didn't tell them, which is probably not something you're supposed to do. That might be an ethical problem, but you know, whatever, they all liked it. I told them after the fact, and they know there's nobody mad about it. They were surprised at how good it was. And I mean it is. It's it's kind of like. It's kind of like, you know, kind of like duck in a little bit and it's, you know, like to.

Speaker 1: 48:05

I'd like to eat more of it this year and I'm not eating squirrels and a lot of people like I live in Jersey city and I'm not eating these squirrels. You know these are squirrels in the woods that have only been eaten nuts and stuff. And the same thing with bears is like, oh, you can eat a bear and it's like, well, you think about like, what something is is like tastes, like how it what it eats. You know, yeah, I'm not going to eat a turkey vulture, cause that's definitely a taste like crap, you know, but like a squirrel that just eats nuts and berries. Same thing with a bear that eats nuts, corn berries. How? Where would it get its bad taste from? You know sea ducks that eat like old, dead fish. You know that's not. That might not be good, but you know I'm excited. It's a lot of fun. I think it's something that that gets looked down upon by a lot of people, but yeah it's a great I like it, I like it, I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 1: 49:04

Nobody that I've ever gone with didn't have a great time.

Speaker 2: 49:09

Now, and do you do it in Jersey too? Do you squirrel hunt Jersey as well?

Speaker 1: 49:13

I haven't yet. I've only squirrel hunted Maryland, okay, but I've definitely, I definitely am going to squirrel hunt Jersey this year.

Speaker 2: 49:21

Yeah, well, we'll get on. I'll go with you and stuff like that and get on them. We need so with with that in mind, I guess I'll drop a little a little teaser here. Date is not confirmed, but we are going to be having hosting a game dinner. We're hoping for early April. If not, it'll be the end. What did I say? May right?

Speaker 1: 49:42

End of May, I think I said way yeah, we picked the weekend in May. I think it was like the. It was either the weekend of the 6th of April or you said the like second or third week in.

Speaker 2: 49:55

May, yeah, something like that. So we are going to be hosting a game dinner, so squirrels, I'm hoping, is going to make the menu. Hopefully Peyton can shoot a bunch of a lot of well, peyton and I could shoot a lot of squirrels and put that on the menu. Bear has already been confirmed, will be on the menu. I, dear, of course, is going to be on the menu. I may put before I can confirm what else is going to be on the menu. I imagine duck or geese will be on the menu and then we might cater some food too as well, but it's going to be. We're in the process of getting the date situated in the place locked down and then going from there. So when more details come out, we'll 100% make a, an announcement, and then we will be selling tickets to get in for this year and probably for every year moving forward. But this is something I want to do annually. It's something that I've been trying to do for the last three or four years, but it's just a lot of work in timing and everything like that.

Speaker 2: 51:10

Another thing is we are actually going to be selling some merch. Some new merches is hitting our store. So this is the green army green, whatever you want to call it Chacea, chacea, unknown line Now with the white. Our t shirts and our long sleeves have black. Our sweatshirts and our damn what's the other one that I got Hoodie and crew neck, crew neck, yep, both in green and the bluish gray with the white lettering. Those are going to be made available soon. We'll be doing a pre order for those in a little bit. I got, I got a few. I think I got like 2025 for family and some of the guys and everything like that, but I will be doing a pre order for that soon as well.

Speaker 1: 52:01

What does that size run? What does that size look like? Because that was a question I had this is a large one.

Speaker 2: 52:06

I'm wearing a large?

Speaker 1: 52:07

Yeah, do you think it runs like big, or run small, or runs, true? So I feel like sweatshirts are so hit or miss.

Speaker 2: 52:14

I think this runs true Like this is every other large sweatshirt I've ever worn. You know I don't, we can. You know if? Well, when I give you years, you know, trying on if it doesn't fit, then when I do the pre order list, I will be ordering extra large. So I will be. I just did a certain amount just for just a few, just to give to people and everything like that and some of the guys. But you know, when we do the pre orders, obviously you can get anywhere from small, medium, large, actual large, double XL, yada, yada, yada. We still have some hats Well, this is not my hat, but this is Dave's Urban Pursuit hat but we still have some hats, shirts and stuff like that Fist fail as well.

Speaker 2: 52:56

We're getting back into that season where, you know, we'll be going to shows and everything like that. So merch will be made steadily available as well. And then, yeah, like I'll, we'll be at the Great American Outdoor Show. I know Bianca and I are going to only be able to go. We were going to go for four or five days this year because of our wedding. We're only going to and we're going to England now, and you know. So we are going to only be going for like a night or two because we need to save money. Eventually we will be back to being there for four, five, six days, maybe seven days a week, because she actually loves it. So we'll be there. I don't know what Peyton's situation with that is, when he can go.

Speaker 1: 53:39

Undecided still. Yeah, I'd love to, but. I haven't planned that far ahead yet unfortunately yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 53:47

No, I get that and yeah, we'll probably be doing a few other shows and stuff like that, hopefully this year. But yeah, well, as the time gets closer, we will be updating you guys and everything like that every step of the way. We have a bunch of stuff planned for 2024. You know a lot of stuff that we're working on, but it's still in season. So you know, our most important thing is finishing the season and then we'll get there. Peyton, any any last words for for the guys out there.

Speaker 1: 54:19

Oh, I forgot about the the Bears call story.

Speaker 2: 54:23

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, let me go grab it. Yeah, oh man, this is. This story is so unique and so cool. So this is a really cool story, guys, for all you that have fallen us, follow, follow us, you probably know, but for the people that don't like, check this out. So so I got my bear skull, big skull, though what first go go for the measurement. So what? What was the measurement of the of the skull?

Speaker 1: 54:57

So this is a 19, like scoring. I don't remember, I just remember the sum scores a 19 and like a 16th. So I think they go to the one eight, so 19 inch, which would be Pope and young. Yeah, I think Pope and young is 18.

Speaker 2: 55:13

Yeah, was in.

Speaker 1: 55:14

Crocket 20. So you? Know right there in the middle. Yeah, that's back in the middle between a Boone and Crocket and a Pope and young. So it's pretty sweet and then. So if you look at the pictures of my bear, you'll see that.

Speaker 2: 55:36

And we'll. We'll have the picture somewhere here, wherever. When I edit this, it will be somewhere here.

Speaker 1: 55:43

You'll see that it had a big like ping pong ball size, not on its nose, and I was kind of right up about this. But yeah, I just remember, like everybody, just be like oh okay, you know there's some, you know there's a knot on its nose.

Speaker 2: 55:58

We thought it was assist, or we thought a BB gun or our Pella gun or something like the like nothing out there.

Speaker 1: 56:05

We never really thought much of it at the time. I remember we shot the bear. We also focused on the bear that nobody thought really anything about. The knot on its face, you know, it just kind of went by the wayside.

Speaker 2: 56:15

I remember you asking. I remember you asking I asked you what you're like. What do you think that's on its face? I'm pretty sure. Or maybe it was Bobby, or maybe it was Bass.

Speaker 1: 56:25

Somebody, yeah, I don't know, yeah, and then we were like I thought it was like maybe a thorn or something but it just quickly got like yeah, yeah, you quickly just got like forgotten about, you know, and the excitement of just like, oh, my God, we shot the nice bear and but it's kind of took it to my taxidermis because I'm getting a rug made and then he's like I'll throw in the Euro Mount of the skull, you know, for an extra, like a little bit.

Speaker 1: 56:52

So I was like, yeah, absolutely. And my girlfriend was with me and her she she's a veterinarian student, so she's in vet school, so she is all about the animal stuff, and she was explaining in the scientific manner of what that is that I don't know because I don't speak that language. But you know, they were both feeling it and they were like there's something like like a big hard, like knot in there and I was just like, okay, whatever, I'm already thinking about the money that I just gained, this guy, which is like, so I can not thinking anything of it because I'm just thinking about how empty my bank account is now.

Speaker 1: 57:33

And then I didn't really think about it until we're on the way there, and again, my girlfriend's with me, for whatever reason, she is there every time I go to the taxidermist and she's like, oh, I'm so excited to see what he pulled out. And I'm just like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. So he pull up and immediately hands me the skull and attaches a little baggy with a perfectly intact nine millimeter slug. So why, like you can see where it engaged the rifling. It's a little, maybe slightly dented, kind of on the one side. You know the jacket didn't is still perfectly intact and you know the lead has only started to kind of corrode since it's been out, since I've taken it out of the plastic and he took it out of the bear's face. So who knows? You know, I have no idea, you know who shot this bear in the face, but there is it did nothing to this bear.

Speaker 1: 58:38

There is nothing, it is just. It was just resting, you know, right up against its face, right here, and you know I'm talking to the expert, the veterinarian student. She was saying, you know they'll push it out like it was still intact. Intact, it wasn't corroded at all, you know. So I think it leads me to believe the bear wasn't shot that long ago. And the fact that you can shoot it with a nine millimeter full metal jacket right in the face and it not give a shit out there, you not shoot a bear with a nine millimeter?

Speaker 2: 59:15

you're only pissing off.

Speaker 1: 59:18

Evidently contrary to popular belief, including myself. So there you go. You know I have a couple of theories, but you know it wasn't in the boonies either. It's not like where we shot it was in an area where I would believe it'd be questionable to discharge a handgun too. So it's just really surprising.

Speaker 2: 59:46

But you know, in that area, where people are allowed to, there's no discharge like, so people can shoot in their backyards and stuff like that. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, because my buddy lives there on the other side and he's actually building a rain. Well, he wants to build a range in his backyard and he called in everything that you look at he has a cop also. But like he called an ass and they said, yeah, there is no like discharge, so you get, you're good to go. I always hear like shooting, especially where we were on the other side, where we're out scouting and deer hunting and everything like that, one of those houses over that, I remember, would shoot like every day. Just go shoot every single day. Maybe it was that person. Don't want to get him in trouble, so you know you never it could be so many people.

Speaker 1: 1:00:34

They had a stray bullet. I mean, I was thinking maybe somebody got into somebody's trash for the last time and they'd had enough Big bear, big bear, but you know, just not a yeah, nine millimeter, evidently Just shot. Placement couldn't have been more perfect too Right between the eyes, yeah, and just they're bulletproof apparently. Well, I've, I've go by your 10 millimeters, I guess.

Speaker 2: 1:01:05

I talked to a guy commercial. We did a podcast. You know I remember him shooting a. He was bare hunting and he shot a bear with the bow up in a tree and the arrow deflected right off the skull. Just, their skulls are so thick that it is not easy to. So when you are buying your bare protection gun, especially in a state where you can carry one, do not carry anything. Nine and smaller. We are not going to test what round goes through, but we know for sure nine below no bueno, we kind of figured 22 and everything like that. No, no, no, but you need speed, or at least it's got to be shot in the, you know in the vitals.

Speaker 2: 1:01:54

but then you know, shoot it in the head apparently. Yeah, do not if it's charging at you, just say a prayer.

Speaker 1: 1:02:03

Or you better pray that you have.

Speaker 2: 1:02:06

Pray that you better have you good enough shot or you get it literally right in the eye. Like that's the only, like that's the only thing I can think. Yeah, but even the idea is not get on this bear.

Speaker 1: 1:02:20

It's still a thick bone right behind it, though you know it's. It's skull is a lot more narrow than I thought. Right, Because you look at that bear and that's just all crushing power, the bear, the crushing muscles these are. So you see, a big bear has got a big block head. But it's all, all muscles just to crush and you know it's insane bones. Yeah, they're. They're awesome animals. You know, I think since I've started hunting them is actually where I really fell in love with bears, which is my argument.

Speaker 1: 1:02:58

It just goes to my argument. It's just like you know, I often get asked the question you know being so hard into hunting and my girlfriend being so into animals, and it's like, how does she feel about it? Well, it's like, well, in many ways I, in most ways I, you know, care for and love, you know these type of animals more than anybody else does. Yeah, just because you appreciate them in such a greater manner and she understands that and appreciates that herself, so she actually loves it.

Speaker 2: 1:03:28

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's great. You know, great, great to hear that understanding that we, that we that we need you know from, from. You know not everyone's going to, you know think like that and everything like that. So, but they're truly amazing creature and you know we talked about it on the first time, we recorded the episode you know the bear episode and everything like that and such a unique animal, truly one of the most interesting, where they look like the most docile big dogs and can just app, absolutely just ruin your one swipe, not even like a full powered swipe could take off your head, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:04:18

Or just looking at your bear's head and now looking at the skull versus the head and that was by far the biggest bear head I have I've seen in person to date there's a Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1: 1:04:37

I'm a big Joe Rogan fan and he was talking on a podcast and it's like there's people in this world that think that they can fight those things and it's like thinking about it now, or it's like you can even shoot them in the face with a handgun and it doesn't do anything. You know, maybe rethink that, maybe you'd like to rethink that thought If you're one of those guys that thinks you can fight these things because they will mess you up.

Speaker 2: 1:05:01

No, no, there's. There's no point At that point I'm just saying a prayer and just you know, that's. That's all I could do. Maybe try to scare it. That's like the only tactic that that really that really works.

Speaker 1: 1:05:14

Something bigger than nine, apparently. If you can 45, 50 cal, anything, yeah, and you know, I guess there's, we don't, there's a lot, we don't know. Maybe it could have been very far, maybe it could have been a deflection, you know maybe that bear was just in the wrong place, wrong time. Caught a stray, but that's true.

Speaker 2: 1:05:35

Yeah, it ain't looking good, it's not looking no, no, yeah, but All right, guys, I think we'll, I think we'll wrap it up here. You know, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, first one of 2024. We'll, we'll be doing like I said. We'll be finishing out the year doing these basically weekly episodes. We, you know we got just what five weeks left of the season. Basically, yeah, spell, just about five weeks left of the season.

Speaker 2: 1:06:09

We probably won't record, you know, any crazy updates with coyote season. You know we'll probably get out unless we, you know, we do something crazy or something like that get a bunch of raccoons and coyotes or something like that. We'll probably go to two weeks or whatever. But a break will be coming after. I, you know, I will be taking a little bit of a break and then we're going to be back to recording, back to doing interviews, stuff like that, work on a bunch of other stuff. So, you know, stay tuned for that, stay tuned to hear about our official announcement for the game dinner, when we're releasing our sweatshirts and anything else that we have planned. Okay, and any last words.

Speaker 1: 1:06:55

Nope, you know as always. Thank you guys.