Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 1: 1:10

you're going Squatch, I thought he was going to go, but yeah, Squatch is here. Ryan, this is your first time on, correct?

Speaker 4: 1:19

Yeah, I mean, I saw your post figured, I'd hop in and say hey, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1: 1:25

Yeah, no, we're excited to have you on. You know things are starting to heat up. You know it is. It's almost Halloween. It's literally what Halloween? By the time this episode drops, it'll be like two days away from Halloween.

Speaker 1: 1:40

It is the perfect time to be in the Whitetail woods, everyone, and I don't know. I think starting halloween, starting tomorrow, like it's so magical. Obviously it's halloween and I love halloween to begin with, but the fact that, um, I just think, dear, I don't know to me, I think they just know that it's go time and things just start getting crazy and like the wildest things happen on on halloween and I'm still chasing that dream. I want a halloween buck so badly and that is like a huge goal of mine is to get a halloween buck. But before we get into that because I do want to get squash up and going and everything like that squash, you are going to be busy the next week to everyone, everyone, where you're, where you're going to be heading sure so uh, me, jason's killing and grilling, um quentin at full draw reports and north carolina white tails all on instagram.

Speaker 3: 2:41

Guys I've been friends with for a while now. Uh, jason was so kind to invite us out to his place, which is out in South Webster, ohio. Um, it butts up to Wayne National Forest, which is, I believe don't hold me to it, I think it's like 58,000 acres, so it's all uh, really really nice wilderness up there. Um, some of the pictures I've seen of some really really high class bucks, and I'm just looking forward to it, man Deer camp with the boys and it should be something. It's going to be a hoot and you know, the nice thing about it too is hell. We're all hoping for a big buck and nice time and everything.

Speaker 3: 3:24

But it's the camaraderie I mean. You know how it is. You're talking to these faces over the internet and you know, on the phone and for all these years now, and it's like you know, finally you're going to get to shake somebody's hand, give somebody a hug. Hey brother, how are you? Finally we're face to face, you know, and that's it's a camaraderie. You know I'm I'm 90 billion percent looking forward just to the camaraderie, you know, and uh, if, if a good buck comes along, I don't care if it's, if it's a decent eight, I'm I'm not wasting the tag money, I'm shooting it. So uh, but you know it's got to be something decent out there, which is probably not that hard no, no, I'm not trying to, you know, jinx myself or nothing.

Speaker 3: 4:09

I'm just saying I I'm not one of those guys, you know, maybe next year like I'd be more patient with it, but you know, this year traveling out, you know, 10 plus hours and I'm, I'm whatever man. If it looks good, it's dying, I don't care, I'm letting it fly a hundred percent, yeah, no. I.

Speaker 1: 4:28

I would be in the same boat too. Listen, I said the same thing about Delaware, you know, and I'm still, I'm still waiting. Hopefully I can tag a buck soon so I can head back down there. For the rut down in Delaware Cause just absolutely incredible hunting down there. But Ohio, big buckle list for me. I know, frank, you know we we've talked like, oh, can we get to Ohio this year, next year? I keep saying it.

Speaker 1: 4:52

I don't care what happens next year. I'm going to tell my fiance right now Bianca, I'm booking Ohio next year. I'm just letting you know. Yeah, she said uh-huh, just letting you know. Yeah, she said uh-huh um you know, but how.

Speaker 1: 5:08

You know what you're, you're going into this hunt, you know what are, what are the expectations you know. Obviously it's not really about killing everything like that your expectations, having fun, the camaraderie and everything like that. What is the train kind of look like? Um, that that you've seen so far in the pictures, or also talking to to jason? What's it look like?

Speaker 3: 5:27

yeah, so it's, uh, it's hardwoods, uh, there's some fields. He's got food plots in up there. Um, like I said, his property is private and it butts up into that that state land as their private land or public land and uh, you know it's hilly, it's rolling hills through, uh, some like smaller mountains I would say kind of almost catskill-ish, like it is up here in new york by me um, but big, big woods, you know it's it's a lot, of, a lot of good terrain. I I'm gonna sit there and look on, uh, the maps and everything really good. Um, of course, you know he knows the area like the back of his hand. So I'm going to, you know, pick his brain a little bit.

Speaker 3: 6:08

And you know he was really cool. He said, hey, you know what you guys can drive down the road. There's entrances into the land. You know I can tell you where to go in there. You know you can scout it out or if you want to try this spot or that spot. So I think I think he's he's been on his game, you know, really tough over there. He knows what he's doing and, um, I'm sure he's he's got some good, good, you know, things picked out for us to go try and uh, you know, like anything, you follow the home team leader, you know you just use their stuff. And then you know, uh, you, you just basically weigh out the odds and figure out what's there and then use your best judgment.

Speaker 1: 6:51

you know, yeah, yeah, no, I, I agree with that. You know it's. Listen, just just have fun, I think. Anyway, like whenever we do camp, I mean we hunt, you're hunting all the time, but you're, you're literally you're hunting, you're eating, you're drinking and you're laughing the whole entire time like there's nothing else really going on during camp. Like you know, you're, you're not sleeping much, especially if you're going to be in tents and everything like that. Like I love tenting, like I can.

Speaker 1: 7:17

We were just for bear camp, we were out and everything like that. It was like 30 degrees and it was was my fiance. She struggled with sleeping. She's not used to it, like I am Me, once I get into that cold, I just knock out and I literally got up. We left, went hunting, spent no time at camp, we literally went we're out all day, came back, cooked food, cooked venison and you know some bear and everything like that, had a few drinks, sat by the fire and just talked.

Speaker 1: 7:45

And I'm kind of, you know, envious right now because I, I wish we, we, we, I had a camp to go to right now, but we don't, we don't have camp until December, um, but I mean it's, it's just glorious right now it's, and I'm you know you're going to have so much fun and I can't wait to till you're back in a week talking on the podcast about all the fun you guys had and everything like that too as well, and and some of the movement that you guys saw, or the deer that you guys killed, too, as well yeah, I'm hoping that too and, like I said, uh, I think we're gonna do uh like a live out there too, with us sitting around the campfire and stuff and probably just touching base on what we're doing.

Speaker 3: 8:28

We're gonna try to connect, connect with the community. You know of all you guys who follow us and everything and our team and uh, of course, you know, if something magical happens and I'm successful, I'll make sure everybody knows, you know, send posts out, whatever I can out there squash.

Speaker 1: 8:46

No, you gotta do more than that. You gotta text frank, say hey, you owe me a track, I'm crashing in now. Drive your ass six to eight hours.

Speaker 3: 8:59

Frank Frank. Frank Frank has many frequent flyer miles with the old squad.

Speaker 2: 9:05

He's. He's got a lot of.

Speaker 3: 9:07

Frank's got a lot of pull with the old squad, so he don't know. He don't owe me nothing.

Speaker 1: 9:11

He knows that with the old squatch. So he don't know, he don't owe me nothing. He knows that, um, but yeah, no, um, yeah, look, like I said, looking, looking forward to it. Um, ryan yo the the, the new guy to the to the podcast first time on. You know, let everyone out there real quick now. Give yourself a little background and rundown about yourself, I mean born and born and raised in Warren County, New Jersey.

Speaker 4: 9:34

I mean grew up hunting there since like mid-90s, late 90s, when I first got into it. I belong to like a club out there in Warren County. So, like you said, camp is like everything. It's huge, Like Buck Week vacation every year, set a year out. Like no matter what, but bow hunt actually got rid of all my compound stuff.

Speaker 4: 9:56

just uh sticking string now oh yeah, I mean, like you said, I was out west, I was in iowa for three years, so that kind of like I shot a good buck when I was out there, public land, like missed a good buck when I was out there, saw like freak of all freaks, like nightmares still about it, but came back to Jersey shot a couple of them and then like I don't know, it's hard, you try and find that trophy buck year after year and I needed a different challenge so I switched over to the recurve for the last couple years, which I think is the end game for like a lot of people.

Speaker 1: 10:34

Like I think once you, you get to a certain part, like that, that's on the bucket list too. Like, and everyone I talk to, who, who bow hunts, like you know, compound bows, you know it's like, what else can I do to challenge myself? 100, what, what is the next step? And that's what we're doing. Like I, I take pride in bow, as all bow hunters we take so much pride in and what we do. But, uh, you know, how else can you get better, how else can, you like, listen?

Speaker 4: 10:57

so it's an evolution, always like at first you're trying to just kill something, and then you're trying to kill a big one, and then you're trying to kill the one, and then you're trying to get other people into it, so, like, then you're just going to make it harder on yourself. It's always something new.

Speaker 1: 11:11

Yeah, and it, yeah, and like technology is going skyrocketing, but then we go to the just the opposite, just straight primal, like uh, but I think yet again, like when you're, when you're talking about what we do as bow hunters, like we're, it's the next challenge, it's the next you know step, it's the next adrenaline rush, like I listen, hunting is no other like expression, no other bow hunting like having a big buck at 15, 20 yards, or a bear or something like that. I don't care what you've done in life, not many things, I you know. Compare there, there's a few others out there military special forces like but not many.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Listen, I don't care what. There isn't much like that compares, you know. And then you're doing the old, uh, primal, traditional style over there it's like, yeah, now we're now we're really talking like earn a buck even early season, like that.

Speaker 4: 12:11

First though, had me shaking, had me shaking Like you wouldn't believe, just because I'm like I got it, like I got a stick in my hand now, like there's no room for error, yeah, no it's.

Speaker 1: 12:22

And listen, joe still gets me there. I was shake I wasn't shaking too bad Cause I kept it under control, right, because I made the mistake of like letting a doe get to me last year and but after I shot it like I couldn't like, just that like feeling of like everything has to be an accomplishment. And how I look at things is like today I went out the evening hunt. I said I I had a whole setup and everything like that, but the wind wasn't good so I was like screw it, I'm just going to go try to find some fresh sign. Every tree I wanted to pick had poison Ivy in it, every single one the one tree that didn't.

Speaker 1: 13:06

Oh, I have it right now. It's, it's, it's right here and it's on my back.

Speaker 4: 13:12

I could pull it off a higher.

Speaker 1: 13:15

I I used to, I used to be like that and then all of a sudden, oh, it's no good, it changed and now I get poison ivy like crazy. But before I used to literally be able to roll around it and I'd be good it's bullshit. I, I don't I don't like this getting older thing. Like what the hell?

Speaker 3: 13:34

There's a stick and a string right there there we go. That was probably 12 years ago, hell yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:41

I still got it.

Speaker 3: 13:43

The Super Mag 48 is on the wall over here and I will shoot it again. I love it.

Speaker 1: 13:48

I love it, let me interrupt.

Speaker 3: 13:49

you Go ahead.

Speaker 1: 13:50

No, no worries at all. And then there's this one tree I picked that was so slanted I got two sticks up but I was like, no, this isn't going to work.

Speaker 2: 14:00

Like nah good, so I ended up going.

Speaker 1: 14:02

So then I went like this If I see a deer, today's going to be a successful hunt.

Speaker 4: 14:08

That's getting me anxious to start a hunt like that oh, I was and you're making noise. You're like oh, I wasted a half 45 minutes trying to bounce around.

Speaker 1: 14:17

Yeah, I I got in early and I'm like all right, like I'm gonna get set up like that. And then I look at my watch and I'm like, oh shit, I really got like I gotta find a tree, like and I'm making so much noise and, frank, I felt like you the other day.

Speaker 1: 14:30

I was really close to brush trees because, everything was a mess because I'd already taken everything up with me, kind of. So when I brought it back down to the ground the first time, I was like I'm not re-putting everything back the way it needs, I'm just gonna pick it up in my hand and everything like that. I've stopped falling and dragging like I honestly I didn't think I was gonna see a deer and I saw like two or three nice size does and almost got a shot on one. But it's like that, right there, the fact that I saw a deer, that success, that was a successful hunt. Like after everything, you know what you went for. But that's, that's bow hunting. Like you gotta take everything as a success.

Speaker 1: 15:11

What we're doing is so close and everything like that. Like seeing a deer, that's the first ballpark. If you don't see a deer, you know you you can't kill one. So that that's that's how I look at it. But uh, you know we, we were laughing before we. We started recording the move back to Iowa and everything like that. Like what, what was it? Family related, job related?

Speaker 4: 15:31

like what was it? Family related, job related. What was it? Met a girl, followed her out there, came back, got married, so it worked out. She okay. She got into vet school and asked me if I wanted to follow and I'm like, where she said iowa, I'm like, let's do it you.

Speaker 1: 15:46

You want me to go to iowa, of course yeah, no problem, yeah a hundred percent. That's pretty cool. No, that that's cool. Do you get to go out like anymore? Um, you know what? What's it look like? I know like when you're a resident it's a little different, but now that you're so, I moved out and then you couldn't uh, you weren't resident until six months of living there.

Speaker 4: 16:06

So my first season all I did was run cameras. I got out there in like october, ran cameras, figured out the lay of the land, found a couple different tracks. I wanted to hunt, tortured myself. I actually just went out and sat in my climber with no bow, like when I couldn't hunt, just watch, and that was like rough but.

Speaker 4: 16:24

I was like I can't do anything else, like I may as well go check it out, yeah and then, uh, so I got three seasons in while I was out there hunted it hard, and then I guess now I'd have to start applying for points to go back. It's, I mean, and if you want to get the counties you want, you're looking at like four or five points, I think, probably like a three, four year process yeah, I started my process last summer, so it's gonna it's gonna be some time and I got a pile of pins like I'm like I could just go back.

Speaker 4: 16:53

I got a few of my buddies that live out there, that like in some of our areas, and they're sending me pictures. I'm like, yeah, let's just stop well, where?

Speaker 1: 17:01

where are some other states? Have you? Have you hunted uh?

Speaker 4: 17:05

I had family growing up in wisconsin as like a little kid so I hunted. That like that was some of my very first hunting. I never shot anything. We hardly ever saw anything like cwd was like really bad, but that's where like I kind of learned what hunting was and saw the orange army for the first time and kind of the back 40 with grandpa on apple orchard and stuff. So it was pretty cool I got to do that. But uh, yeah, nothing else really too anywhere. A lot of bird hunting I do. I got a dog do a lot of that cool yeah, those memories are worth a lifetime.

Speaker 1: 17:38

That's, that's for damn sure a lot of a lot of the best memories really have nothing to do with killing deer. Honestly it's. It's those you know, spending with the family and you know, like you said, you with your grandpa and everything like that, and seeing what um, yeah, what the what the Orange Army is like, what was? Do you remember? Like, what was your first like? Oh my God, this is gun season over here.

Speaker 4: 18:00

Yeah, you just got like I don't know. You get out and walk in the woods and sun's coming up. You're not really expecting anything. You just hear the yo's and you're like, oh, what's going on? I didn't know anything about it. And then just a line of guys. It wasn't, it wasn't anything crazy, it's only a couple people. But I was like what? I had no idea what they were even doing. And then now I come back home and do it with all my buddies here in new jersey, so it's pretty cool and you said you're, you're bird hunt, so you're pheasant hunting and everything or waterfowl a little bit of both I mean a lot of bit of both, yeah, so the pheasant hunting here.

Speaker 1: 18:33

Listen, I tell people pheasant hunting in new jersey is absolutely wild, so I I've done tons of it I, uh, I get to work.

Speaker 4: 18:43

I work on a preserve that I get to guide out, no kind of thing. But then my favorite thing is tuesdays and thursday mornings before work, going out with like a handful of my friends and like lining up in the dark and trying not to get shot.

Speaker 1: 18:55

It's wild all the times I've almost I've came close to getting shot is during pheasant season. That's the only and I like, I, I, I like pheasant hunting, but it's like damn, yeah, no, I'm not going to do this. Like I'll just wait and I actually want to do raffles, to do some pheasant hunting and everything like that. So just be me and like whoever I want like a few of the buddies. So like I'm looking forward to that. But, ryan, what have you seen? How's your season been so far?

Speaker 4: 19:30

It's been decent. I mean, I haven't put anything on the ground yet. I uh actually stuck a decent buck pretty good buck would have been my first recurve buck. And I didn't find them, thought I aced them made like hand calls and everything.

Speaker 4: 19:45

oh man, it was nice, big, wide, six pointer, no brows, like I'd seen him the year before, pretty much the same kind of deer. I was like, all right, I'm gonna send one a certain step forward to the front leg, like slightly quartering away, and just I put it right behind the shoulder but I think I missed him forward, if that makes sense. But like, yeah, behind the leg, but forward, because I followed blood for 150 yards, just puddles and like you can see where he stopped, didn't bed, like we walked it, like you were walking it, like waiting to see where that deer was going to be, and then it just dried up.

Speaker 2: 20:26

And then I think he is.

Speaker 4: 20:28

So I'm still kind of hanging on that property pretty hard, but I'm trying to stay out and move a bunch of my cameras down there to look for him, see if he's still around, Cause I think I saw him and then I've heard word of him, but so that that hurt. But lately I've been seeing good box Like they're starting to move for sure.

Speaker 1: 20:45

Yeah, it's. It's especially with that, that cold weather. Now, the one thing I will definitely say and this is something I wanted to point out, we talked about a little bit in our group chat, but I've been getting a lot of people and dming me and now talking to people, gerard hit me up the other day and, like deer movement hasn't been what it's usually been.

Speaker 1: 21:05

We need cuts of yeah right and every, and I'm lucky because right now I I get, I'm actually I don't have that problem because there's so much water where where I'm hunting, so I have just constant flow of of water. But you know, up up north there there really isn't that. And I now like going through my mind, I'm like, well, why haven't I seen deer, why haven't I seen pictures? Every time I've I've hung hunted up north and it's like, oh duh, we're in a freaking drought.

Speaker 4: 21:34

It's warm dry.

Speaker 1: 21:35

Yeah, it's, yeah, not deer 100, no, and and if we don't get rain, I it's. It's gonna be troublesome because these deer are gonna be killing themselves over. You know, chase it and everything like that, and we already know how, what that's like and what bucks, what bucks do to to chase these does, and how badly they run them down and everything like that. Like, if there isn't water, like it's, it's going to be a serious problem and you know. So, if anyone out there has the opportunity to do it, you know, gerard actually did this. He put a uh, he got a um water, yeah, and he put one in his, uh, his yard and he told me he was like, oh, like, I wasn't getting any pictures, and then I put that thing in and they're in there non-stop, just just non-stop, and that's all it takes, because you know and and he said it perfectly like it's not only just about hunting and killing, but this is conservation, this is something that's going to really help you.

Speaker 1: 22:35

The deer herds out and everything like that, because they're going through a very difficult time without, you know, without water, which, everywhere you walk, I mean it sounds like I I can't even sneak through the woods right now.

Speaker 1: 22:48

It's no it's insane, yeah, so, um, yeah, no, that that's something that, um, hopefully we get. We get some rainfall soon and that'll definitely help, but, um, these cool 30 degrees mornings yeah and it's. I think we're supposed to warm up a little bit for the days, but I think for the most part, morning, mornings morning seem to look good. Um, I'm gonna take a quick yeah. Of course halloween's gonna be hot, but then it's supposed to dip back down, but the morning seemed real good.

Speaker 1: 23:24

Saturday's gonna be 38. Yeah, I'm gonna have to call work again and be like I might not be able to come in, but I mean, listen, I'm still going. I'm a Halloween hunter, I don't care how hot it's going to be, I'm probably going to be.

Speaker 1: 23:40

You got to get out, I'm going to get out, and I'm going to get out in the morning, which I haven't done on Halloween in a while, because I'm usually like doing something. But I said there's no damn way, I am not gonna. I think 7.30, so 7 o'clock is shooting light, like take full advantage of sleeping in a little bit, not having to be up at 4, yeah. Yeah, not having to be out crazy time, and you know it's, it's a good one for sure. But, frank, anything going on with you?

Speaker 2: 24:12

No, I mean it's basically been the same old I've been um hunting my buddy's property.

Speaker 1: 24:19

Tell them your story.

Speaker 4: 24:20

Yeah, which one?

Speaker 2: 24:25

There's so many over there. Um, yeah, so actually, yeah, that was on federal land this past weekend, so I haven't really been paying that much attention to federal land this year, so I've been focusing. I've been seeing really great deer where I'm at. So I've been focusing, trying to figure out that property and, you know, put one of those big ones down. But I did decide to go out on Sunday. There's no hunt in there on on the federal land on sundays, so I went just to you know. Um, you know, throw up a quick stand, make sure everything's good, move a few cameras to where I know, especially during the late season, like right around now, I start seeing really good deer and wouldn't you know it. I set everything up and I'm like alright, but it's almost like the same thing, real quick. So I used to have a stream, I used to run through one of my spots. I get there completely dry, nothing, no tracks, no, nothing, I'm like. But I threw up a camera anyway because I know they'll be in there later on. So I'm like, all right, we'll just pull one here, make sure, check all the straps of my tree stands, make sure everything's good.

Speaker 2: 25:42

Walk out to my truck and there's the game warden sitting by my truck. I'm like he's like. He's like, hey, how's it going? I was like good, how are you? He's like good. He's like, uh, he's like, so, what's going on with you today? Like no, no, I was like I'm in here scouting. I said I'm not hunting. He's like, yeah, he's like. That's one of the reasons why I'm here. He's like somebody I guess was driving by and saw you or whatever he goes, and they called me.

Speaker 2: 26:11

So, since there's no hunting here, I wanted to make sure that you weren't bow hunting. I was like, look was like, I'm hunting here my whole life. I get it, I know all the rules. I said I'm just in here scouting, hanging up cameras. I was like, as you can tell, I was in jeans, a freaking sweatshirt, like I look nothing like a hunter. You know I was like. I even put a note on my windshield that says just scouting.

Speaker 2: 26:39

You know he was like he's like, oh, yeah, he's like like. I just wanted to make sure I was like, and because of that reason actually, I was telling you guys in the group chat like when, when I go there, I don't even keep my bow or nothing in my truck, I'll take everything out of my truck, so there's no confusion on what I'm doing, right, you know. So he was like all right, he's like. You know, he's a really nice guy. He's like oh, you know, he's like have fun.

Speaker 2: 27:05

You know, did you see anything good? I'm like? Not really, you know, I'm like, but you know, I know that. You know, I know that they'll be in here, so he's like all right, yeah, he's like have a good day. You know, I'm like, but you know, I know the, you know, I know that they'll be in here, so he's like all right, yeah, he's like have a good day, you know, go enjoy yourself, be safe and good luck, like. No, I appreciate it. So I mean, that was a good experience, I guess, right that's good they're out doing their job.

Speaker 4: 27:25

Then like, yeah, you're abiding by everything. It's good to see the man out there doing this thing uh we?

Speaker 1: 27:32

I've told this story before in the podcast, but I don't know if I've. You know, I haven't seen you, ryan, you don't know and I don't think you guys have heard this, but I was out one day, a different zone than I hunt, but bianca was hunting, I wasn't hunting and it was permit season. And we're in the blind and it's like prime time and I get a phone call and it's the freaking warden sitting at my truck and he goes hey, listen, I just ran your license plate and I see that you don't have, um, you don't have a permit for this the zone. And I go yeah, I know, I'm not, like, I'm not the one hunting, like my, at the time, my, my girlfriend is. And he goes okay, can you put her on the phone? I have to confirm that.

Speaker 1: 28:17

So then I'm like okay, and like we're whispering too, because like yeah, yeah, give Bianca the phone. And she's like yeah, like you know, I'm the one hunting. Like he's like okay, like good, just had to make sure which, okay, I get it. You know I'm I'm the one hunting. Like, yeah, like he's like okay, like good, just had to make sure, which, okay, I get it. You at what life man you're really. What would have happened if dear like what if I would didn't answer, would you have came out?

Speaker 1: 28:44

and like would you walked out here, would you, you know, I don't know if you knew where we were which I don't think, because a buddy was letting us hunt his spot and everything like that would you've waited there? Like you could have like called me and to answer while you think someone is hunting too, like especially the fact that I was doing it legally is like damn what the hell. But like I, I also get it too, like if someone's doing it legally, you know, I feel like you do. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. It's that one was always like a that's a little extra, that yeah, like you could have just waited for me, honestly, but like probably you could have just waited, and because I think it was, I think we had like maybe 45 minutes left of light, so it wasn't even like we were going to be a couple hours like it was a good part of the, of the hunt and everything like that.

Speaker 1: 29:37

So um yeah but yeah, um. So, guys, it is about to be halloween. Um, anyone have any favorite halloween?

Speaker 4: 29:52

Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. I second that Really.

Speaker 2: 29:56

I like the Snickers Peanut Butters that just came out. My wife can get them for me. Man, they're delicious. I got to bring them to you guys.

Speaker 1: 30:03

Frank, how are you not 500 pounds?

Speaker 2: 30:06

Do you see how much candy I have? I don't know, I don't know. I really don't. I should be to be honest with you, but I honestly I'm such a shit like I am.

Speaker 1: 30:18

I have a sweet tooth so I can't give a favorite. I don't know, I'm such a uh, I don't even know. I feel like back in the day I loved getting, obviously, skittles and Mike and Ike's I don't.

Speaker 4: 30:32

I feel like I'll pull my teeth out.

Speaker 1: 30:34

Yeah, I love them, though I I love them like. Of course, you'd always want the snicker bars. Kit kat was big. Oh yeah, three musketeers. Or milky way, milky way, huge milky way fan. Or Milky Way, milky Way, huge Milky Way fan. Um, but Reese's never like I and I like it. I just I love peanut butter but, I like peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 1: 31:00

Like I don't really I'm not a big like peanut butter and candy or desserts. Like I just like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Like I, I love peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, but, um, yeah, that that's my. Uh, what happened?

Speaker 4: 31:18

it's a grape or strawberry strawberry.

Speaker 1: 31:23

I think I'm gonna have to go strawberry I, I, I like grape, don't get me wrong, but I I love strawberry, like strawberries in general, like I just like so much better. And then if you put bananas on it and everything like that, now I'm starting to make myself hungry again. Anyone got a favorite Halloween movie? I'm a huge horror guy.

Speaker 4: 31:48

Love horror, me too. So Friday the 13th, all day.

Speaker 2: 31:52

Yeah, I knew you would say that, oh man no. I don't watch that stuff see like I'm like the nun and like the conjurings and stuff are like always been like my favorites yeah, I had that camp like right down the road from my house.

Speaker 4: 32:14

It actually borders some of that federal property really oh no shit, like when they actually build their stuff.

Speaker 1: 32:19

It's pretty wild there we, we try to go up there for friday the 13th like we've been at the diner obviously so good, listen, I ate there for the first time, think like a year or two.

Speaker 1: 32:30

Bianca and I loved it. It was phenomenal, like actually really good food, but like we try to always go, and you know, it's just like, listen, I love Halloween. If I could have Halloween, like, I look forward to Halloween. But yeah, friday the 13th is a phenomenal one, frank, you know what? I was never a Conuring fan. Ever since being with bianca, I've turned into one.

Speaker 1: 32:57

I love the nun movie zone, but demon possession has always scared the shit out of me still to this day, like if you're gonna scare me, that's what you're gonna have to put something on like that. But I am a classic slasher person. Halloween any day, or scream, huge scream huge yeah a fan, um, but yeah, love, love, love. Horror movies, squatch I. I understand why you don't love them, though I'm like I, I get it. You know I really I was traumatized as a kid watching texas chainsaw massacre and everything no, it's not that it's.

Speaker 3: 33:37

I'm a, I'm a religious guy. I love god, yeah, yeah and uh, the the whole genre, that stuff. I mean it's all right for kids, go ahead, play, have your fun and stuff, but I anything that resembles satan I got nothing to do with, I don't like it.

Speaker 1: 33:55

And then frank brings up the nun and everything like that.

Speaker 2: 33:58

This is why we get along so good.

Speaker 3: 34:00

No it's, it's, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just not, yeah, but I I me personally in my life. That's something I don't need, but I don't begrudge anybody. Have your fun, do what you want to do and enjoy yourself, you know.

Speaker 4: 34:15

I'm.

Speaker 3: 34:15

I'm the most scariest thing out there.

Speaker 4: 34:22

I'm the squash.

Speaker 3: 34:22

You don't want to hear that. How out there in the middle of the woods.

Speaker 2: 34:25

You know, I don't mind, cause I'm he's on my side.

Speaker 3: 34:33

No, it's all good, you know everybody has their Christmas is my favorite holiday second is thanksgiving, but I love thanksgiving this is the best time of the year any of them that are during hunting season.

Speaker 4: 34:45

Now, right, I mean, it seems like a trend right there, but but you know I love family togetherness and it's all.

Speaker 3: 34:52

Yeah, tradition always gets the big bucks moving, so I always look forward to it. I like the mysterious kind of you know the the big full moon and you know all the hunter's moon is out there and stuff it. It gives it that little bit of uh, you know stuff in the back of your mind kind of thinking going on. But yeah, like I said, you know everybody has their fun, do their thing. We, we all did it growing up, you know. I mean I used to get egg fights and everything else. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:18

But it's all good.

Speaker 3: 35:24

No, like I said, it's, it's. It's all personal preference and stuff those movies. Oh, I'm not a movie guy. I hardly want. The last movie I saw was Wild Hogs. I'll tell you Really yeah, last movie I saw was wild hogs. I'll tell you really, yeah, I'm not a movie guy. I I have more educational learning stuff and and you know stuff like that, but I those movies make me laugh because I was like I'd be like yeah, okay, jason, I'll take out my 44 mag and you're dead. You know, I mean you're not getting.

Speaker 2: 35:49

If that don't, if that doesn't work, I'll park my backhoe on top of you and you're not going anywhere, you know?

Speaker 1: 35:54

it's like how many times is this guy gonna die. Really come on, yeah, you know listen. Yeah, no, I I get that whole part. Listen, the best is when someone's running, like for you. I was watching a movie the other day and someone was running and and they fell and they tripped and I'm like it becomes funny to a point yeah, yeah, like make it realistic, like, and that's why, like now, horror movies to me just aren't that as as good as they used to be.

Speaker 1: 36:22

I mean, obviously, now where technology has become and you know, now you can look everything up and everything's filmed. Like I do love about. Like. I remember when my mom would tell me like jaws was horrifying. She said she remembers going to the movie theater and saying jaws was like the scariest movie at the time coming out and to me it's like I love jaws, like that movie is not scary at all like it is, it is so good, but it just shows you how like things have just changed.

Speaker 1: 36:52

And now you can you know oh well, that's not real, that's fake. Like back then it had that like mystical, like you weren't sure what was you don't know yeah you really didn't know.

Speaker 1: 37:02

Um, but yeah, now, huge, huge halloween person. Like I said, we we had our halloween party yesterday, which which went really well, um, and then I got, we have halloween and then I have another one on. I'm now november 1st and then I'm taking time off to to hunt and everything like that. But any other um halloween traditions from you guys, uh, frank, any, any, any halloween traditions. I know the how the kids, I mean how's your son? I mean exciting time for him dude.

Speaker 2: 37:31

Very exciting, he we must have went on. First of all it starts with trunk retreat for school and then we have like trailer treat. That's another one I like every literally every two, three days. She's like oh, we're shaking trick-or-treating again. I'm like, I'm like I only got one, oh so much. He just hit me up before he went to bed. He was like daddy, if I eat this, can I have one? And I was like you have to feed it.

Speaker 2: 37:59

But it's just, it's so much, he has so much fun, it's just it's a blast to take them. And then, like my wife's job, they throw like a huge event for the kids. So we took them there and it's just, it's just fun just to take the kids out. You know, see how excited he gets. It's just, it's awesome. So actually I'll, I'll be off on on Halloween. I'll be hunting in the morning, cause then he's got his school parade at like two, 30 in the afternoon. So I'm gonna get my hunting in the morning and then I'll, I'm going to go to his parade in the afternoon. So you.

Speaker 1: 38:35

You dress it up as anything no, I don't think so.

Speaker 2: 38:38

He wanted me to be. He see he changes on me one man. He wants to be the iron man, then it's, you know he's. He's spider-man this year. So you know, next time it's captain america. You know I'm like, all right, never mind listen, I, I, I feel him, I completely.

Speaker 1: 38:53

We have three. I, bianca and I were. We're bride and groom because we're getting married, but we're all like bloody and like zombie, whatever. And then, we're I don't know what we're being on halloween. We're still figuring that out and then we still have to figure out the first. But, like she, literally the whole entire time I was hunting. She was at the halloween store trying to find us costumes. She goes okay, well, we could be this or we could be that. And I'm like just pick one.

Speaker 2: 39:17

There's so many options man Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1: 39:20

Yeah, I thought deer hunting was overwhelming for me. You know having too many bucks on camera, but trying to pick the perfect Halloween costume right now is, I think, way yeah, really stressful man. How about youyan?

Speaker 4: 39:38

any, any, uh, halloween traditions, uh, just get in the woods. I try to hunt. I mean, yes, like you're saying, it's, that's the kickoff. Like you know any bow hunter, you got to be in the woods on halloween.

Speaker 1: 39:48

Yeah, no no, it's I'm I'm thinking about. Uh, I mean I dress up. Also, like I won't dress up anything crazy. But I started a new tradition last year where, like Bianca will do like some like scary thing on me and I'll just go hunt, and it gets me into like I'll wear a Michael Myers shirt underneath my shirt and I had like a scream hat on, like last year, and it's like I'm going to kill. So I'm telling you I'm getting into my listen if they have a black one.

Speaker 1: 40:17

If I find one, I'm gonna do it, I definitely will.

Speaker 4: 40:19

I might not be able to see well, but Walking by out in public land Accidentally passed a trail camera. You just got your mouth. I know where a bunch Of cameras are, I just poke around a bunch, so be like Well, I know where a bunch of cameras are. Yeah, I just poke around a bunch of them.

Speaker 2: 40:38

They'll be like well, I know where I'm not hunting.

Speaker 3: 40:41

Hey Frank, you saw that post a couple weeks back. I had that white thing in front of the deer.

Speaker 1: 40:47

Yeah, I was like what the hell?

Speaker 3: 40:51

I don't know, it was probably a moth, but I was like, look, it's a ghost for Halloween. You know, get Casper's out in front of my trail camera.

Speaker 1: 40:59

Yeah, honestly, if I saw something really, really creepy, I'd probably leave that camera there for good and just not look at it?

Speaker 3: 41:06

Yeah, no.

Speaker 1: 41:07

I'm good, especially the further out in the middle of nowhere. You get like nah.

Speaker 2: 41:11

I'm good. Yeah, see I. What I would do is I would spend it.

Speaker 4: 41:21

I'd be like hey guys, let's all go, let's all go scout this spot together.

Speaker 1: 41:25

Yeah, hey, you, you guys go first, I'll follow you around yeah yeah, scream if you need me, that's it. Um, but all right, guys, listen, it was a pleasure to have you guys on as, as usual, the team guys, you guys are always on ryan. We we got to get you for a full episode in the off season where we'll break down a lot more those breakdowns are usually we.

Speaker 1: 41:50

We go anywhere from an hour to two hours, um, and we'll do a full dive on the fam, like how you got into hunting and you know the, your first lessons and your first year and everything like that, and then the stories of your, your biggest deer and everything like that. But I appreciate you um coming on and everything like that Um you know, and like that's the best of luck to you, uh, this year.

Speaker 4: 42:21

And definitely hope to meet you in person and everything like that too, as well, For sure, yeah, I mean definitely in the same areas, I think hunting sometimes.

Speaker 1: 42:27

So we'll link up. Yeah, we definitely will, and everyone out there you know. Happy Halloween, best of luck. The rut is literally right around the corners. Swatch, go, go, kill one out in ohio and I I hope we're all dropping, uh dropping some bucks in the next couple weeks to come. So, um, you know everyone, good luck out there, uh, stay safe and uh, we'll see you guys next time.