Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 2: 1:08

Podcast presented by. Boondocks Hunting. I'm your host, mike.

Speaker 1: 1:09

Naitre, and today we have Samantha Nicoletta. Welcome to the show, thank you. Every newcomer we get on here, they always give us a quick backstory, so let's hear your backstory.

Speaker 2: 1:18

Well, I grew up hunting. My dad is a very avid outdoorsman. If he didn't get a buck or a turkey, like you kind of know, like knew what time of season it was in the house. And I feel like I kind of hold that same persona in a way. Adam really knows if I get irritated about the season, but I just hunting is my entire life. I base everything on it. And then I got married and I taught my husband about hunting and he like didn't grow up hunting or with a hunting family. So then we kind of taught him everything that we know and now he's an avid hunter and now I have a daughter who I take with me hunting and she loves it surprisingly.

Speaker 1: 2:09

But I listen, I it's great to hear, and you know what I really love. It's like you. You're the one that taught your husband.

Speaker 1: 2:17

So, that is like we. We like to interview a lot of ladies on here. I think growing the outdoors is extremely important and it's not it has to be for everyone. It doesn't matter what color you are, what race you are, what you know, sex you are. I think it's extremely important and I am teaching my fiance, but we've I don't think we've ever had somebody on who taught their husband, so I think you'd be the first one. So you know, what was that process like? Like what is the easy learner? Like you know, kind of break us, break us down through through that whole situation. I know me teaching my fiance. She doesn't like listening to me, but if somebody else was to teach her it would be completely fine. But because it's me, you know I have to kind of watch what I say and like the type of tone I use or something like that. But she doesn't want to follow my directions but will follow somebody else's directions yeah, that's kind of I can't say.

Speaker 2: 3:13

He's like that. He is now, but in the beginning he listened to me like he was like oh, you know what you're doing. And now it's like we've developed well, like I have my own way and he has his way. So now we butt heads because I'm like no, this isn't what my dad did, this isn't what I think is right. But in the beginning he's a very eager learner, so he just kind of always listened.

Speaker 2: 3:37

But my brother had an old bow that he wasn't using and we hooked him up with a bow wasn't using and we hooked him up with a bow. And then, uh, lucky Adam, he shot a buck and a doe opening day of PA archery season. And he was like this is amazing. And I was like it's not going to be like that every year. I'm telling you right now, like it is not going to be like this every single year. And then, uh, he shot a Turkey the first day out with my brother.

Speaker 2: 4:03

Like my brother took him for that, um, because I was taking my mom, I think, but I don't know, he, just he, I don't know. He like had some background in it but not a whole lot and he just kind of took to it really easily, like he's very knowledgeable and he wants to learn everything, so he listened to podcasts and watched youtube videos and like what I wasn't teaching him. Then he's like did you know this? And I'm like well, yeah, I did, but it just wasn't like I didn't know that, you didn't know that. Like he didn't know that turkeys roosted in trees and I was like you didn't know that. Like I thought that was common sense, but it's not apparently.

Speaker 1: 4:47

Yeah, no, I would think that was common sense too, because I'm pretty sure I learned that and I want to say in school, but I'm not 100 percent sure, but like I don't know. Yet again, for us it's kind of different because this is the world that we like fully grew up in and you know we've always been you, you know from myself to you and to you know a bunch of people out there listening like that's just common knowledge for us, but like somebody who didn't grow up like almost all this is brand spanking new and the minute they start learning all these like cool facts, it's like it's kind of like mind-blowing to them. But it's so like satisfying, rewarding, just to watch, especially with, like with their significant other, or you know, eventually, when you, when your kids get you know into and start, you know going through the whole process and everything like that. But you know still going with the, you know the family talk and everything like that. So mom hunts too, everyone hunts.

Speaker 2: 5:52

Yep, my mom um hunted when she was younger, but she didn't hunt as she kind of got her license. So my brother and I could go at like at the same time, like if it was youth day, my mom could go with my brother, cause my brother was older so he knew more, and then my dad could take me on youth day, cause I think you needed someone until you're 17 in PA with you. Um, so my mom like kind of had to hunt, so my brother and I both had the opportunity to go, so she I mean she was hunting, like hunting, but it was like more we were, we were hunting and taking her with us yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha, gotcha, that's pretty cool, that's um, you know that's.

Speaker 1: 6:29

You don't hear that one too often either. And I think that is pretty like pretty unique and a pretty cool blessing because, like, as much as I would love for my mom to to grow up like to hunt and everything like that, and she's okay with with it, but she, just she, she can't, she won't do it, um, I don't know. Even if she would come out with me, I mean now obviously I'm 30, but yeah, um, it's, it's, it's a big difference. But I I wonder if I begged her, I wonder if she would. I'm gonna have to try that this year you should.

Speaker 2: 7:00

That would be kind of cool to have your mom go with you yeah, I haven't been with my mom in a long time, but I would love for her to be like, hey, would you go with me? And I'd be like, yes, in a heartbeat. Especially if I have my daughter and I take my daughter like all three of us. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1: 7:16

Yeah, that would be pretty cool to see, and you know were you guys successful when you guys were together.

Speaker 2: 7:22

Yeah, I shot. I remember I shot a doe with my mom on a youth day, probably because we have like a youth and an old man season and right like it's like in middle of archery season but it's a rifle season for the youth and the old men and I remember I shot a doe. Then I've definitely shot turkeys with her and my brother has shot crazy amounts of stuff with her because I'm I mean, I'm a good hunter but my brother is just spectacular, like I think he's lucky, but he, he knows his stuff yeah, yeah, no, I, I get that.

Speaker 1: 8:02

Um, you know. So you guys spent your whole entire time in PA. First of all, the amount of hunters. I didn't like I knew and you've been hearing it more and more like you guys have the most hunters. I think you guys overtook Michigan and everything like that. But today we waited online for your antlerless deer tag and I think my one buddy buddy he was in line and I think it said he was like yeah, I got 7 000 people in front of me oh my gosh but I don't know like it was.

Speaker 1: 8:36

So just working the whole website and everything and new jersey is confusing, don't get me wrong, but I was super confused. But then, once I made a login, it led me, I guess, skip the whole entire line and I was able to buy my tags. And then I was like hey, like I don't know if this was like a mess up, but like, but if if you just have a login or whatever and you sign in, it will just take you right, right and you don't have to wait, and you don't have to wait only, I think, 20 minutes and that's. He did it too and it worked for him. And I was like I I didn't understand it because I was like is everyone else just a guest signing in? Like no one else has a, has their own like page, because I guess the guest had to wait. But the minute I made my username and everything like that, I got let right in and I bought my tags and then there you go well, that's.

Speaker 2: 9:30

I know, like when I sign in, it like makes you wait in line because I bought for 2g and like 2g was like one of it's, like one of the biggest areas. So like they went on sale the first day and I think I was like 100 in line, 114 in line on my phone or something, and I was like, oh, then I'll just wait here, and I think my laptop was like 3,000 and I shut that because I was like I'm not waiting for that. So I got mine on my phone but I had to like wait for like the 100 to go down and then I could sign into my account and buy them. But once you sign into, then you can like sign out of that account and like sign into the next account, because I was in charge of buying my entire family's tags because I'm home.

Speaker 1: 10:17

Oh my God, that's crazy. Pa is just a different. Like I love it up there, it's beautiful, it is.

Speaker 2: 10:24

And I live in like a pretty good part of the state.

Speaker 1: 10:27

Do you?

Speaker 2: 10:27

I do, I don't know Like. Cumming County is just to me is unbelievable.

Speaker 1: 10:35

How far out is that from Jersey?

Speaker 2: 10:37

Oh gosh, Probably four and a half hours, I would say Okay.

Speaker 1: 10:43

Probably four and a half hours. I would say, okay, so you're far, so you're closer than what to Ohio and then West Virginia, like all the way down out over there.

Speaker 2: 10:52

I'm like 45 minutes from the New York border Like okay, all right, yeah, yeah, it's huge, like it.

Speaker 1: 11:08

It's huge because I'm literally it takes me an hour ish to get to pa's border and upstate new york's border. Gosh, I'm trying to buy a house in pa. That's on the border of new jersey and new york and we were gonna go to a show and I was like, oh, like you know what, maybe I'll go do this. It's like, right at the beginning of our hunting season, I was like, oh, you know what, I could take like a day or two off. It was five hours away and I was like, yeah, no, I forgot how big PA actually is it is.

Speaker 2: 11:36

I think it takes us like three hours to get to Ohio three or four hours, if I remember correctly from driving out west. I think it's three, because I like when I drive out west, I like driving for three hours and then I'm like, all right, someone else can drive. My husband could drive for like 20 hours and be like all right, it's your turn and I'm like I'm not driving for another 20 hours like you're yeah, it's, it's.

Speaker 1: 11:59

It's the same thing over here, like when we go up to Maine we're about from our lake house. It's about like 10 to 12 hours. So I will drive all the way to the main border, which is five. She will drive for maybe maybe an hour, maybe two, and then I have to pick up the rest of the the drive, which is fine, like I don't, I just need that little break. You need that. Like okay, let me just kick my feet up, maybe get a little nap in, because she's usually sleeping the whole entire time. So you know, I would like never sleep.

Speaker 2: 12:32

I'm always like I can't sleep, like I have to be awake, and then I might sleep for like 45 minutes and he's like, all right, you need to drive. And I'm like, well, I didn't sleep either.

Speaker 1: 12:41

I'm like I've been awake for like probably almost as long as you have well, yeah, technically I've been awake with you so you can continue to go and you know, I can now take my little power nap and then, once I get up, then we can switch for just two hours, yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:58

I'm like I don't know, like at three hours I just get tired of driving. I'm just like, no, this is boring.

Speaker 1: 13:03

I'm like.

Speaker 2: 13:04

I don't know how you drive, for I think when we went out west with my mom, he literally and it's like 32, 32 or 35 hours to where we go in Montana. I think he literally drove for the first 25 hours and I was just like how are you alive? Alive, like what are you?

Speaker 1: 13:24

doing. What does one do in that, like I don't know, a lot of Red Bulls put them through that. I think, yeah, it's got to be like you've got to be. You know having some energy drinks and stuff like that, but you know, as you, as you got older and everything like that. So when, when did you really fall in love with it? Like, when did you get? Was it always you're hooked on it, or was there a certain moment that really caught you, and what age was that at?

Speaker 2: 13:57

I think probably I'd have to say I was like 14 or 15 and I came home from volleyball practice. My dad had picked me up and I knew that these doe were coming down to the farm fields. My uncle owns a farm across the like across the road, and I knew that they were coming down every single night. And my dad was like, well, why don't you go go try to get one? And I was like, all right, and at this time I still had a crossbow because I was. I was like too, I didn't have the muscles to pull back a regular bow and I wasn't working yet, so I didn't buy my own compound bow.

Speaker 2: 14:33

Um, so I like grabbed my, my crossbow and I threw hunting clothes on over my like volleyball work, like stuff, and I went to the farm and I shot like my first deer by myself, like my dad just kind of was like I'll just sit in the truck, like you go down. And they were already out in the field. So I like walked down, snuck down to the edge of the field and the doe like fed to 30 yards. And then I got one and it was just kind of like insane and I was like so excited and my dad apparently wasn't paying attention to what I was doing and I like had to go up and be like, did you see that? And he's like no, and I'm like, oh, I'm like, well, it was super awesome.

Speaker 2: 15:14

I snuck all the way down there and I was like then they came off and I was like, but I think that's like kind of when I got hooked and then when I was going into my freshman year of high school, my brother had just started getting homeschooled and I was like, well, that sounds cool, like he's home all day. I want to do that because we have an hour ride, one way to go to school. So I was like I want to do that because then I could hunt. And that's what I did. I had to cyber school, but like I would do my classes that I had to be online for on my phone, out of a tree stand and I just hunted all archery season, all rifle season, bear season, it didn't matter, I was in the woods.

Speaker 1: 15:59

Wow, speechless, because I think you're living everyone's dream. Who's listening to this right now? Any type of I think even mediocre, or if you're not even that into it, like that would be like the dream for everyone. Like, oh, I just wanted to play hockey and and hunt and fish and be in the outdoors like man. I did. You get good grades. Were your grades?

Speaker 2: 16:23

good. So it was like most of my classes were self-paced. So when school started in August I would do like two to three months worth of homework through September and then like if we went out west, I would still take my stuff and do it out west best, but I would do two to three months worth of homework, get all of my stuff done, that I could hunt and do whatever I wanted for the majority of the time and then, like dead of winter, I'd pick it back up and finish it, so like finish the school year out so I could spring turkey hunt and not have to worry about doing homework.

Speaker 1: 16:59

I love it. I think that is absolutely incredible. I'm going to have to bargain with the fiance when we eventually have kids to to homeschool them, and that's what they're going to do is hunt and just do school work.

Speaker 2: 17:12

Yeah, it was awesome. I I mean, I can't tell you how many times I called my dad and he's at work and I'm like, hey, like I got a deer down and he's like you're supposed to be in school. I'm like, well, I did it. I'm like I just put my phone down during chem, dad, like it's okay.

Speaker 1: 17:29

Don't worry. Like you know, class is right here, it's in session. Like, don't worry, Like I got all the work done.

Speaker 2: 17:40

It was like very minimal classes that I had to actually be in like present at, and I think it was like Spanish and like chem, like things that I couldn't teach myself. But like a history class, I'm like I could read that book, don't worry about it. I'm like I got and even in like so it like kind of changed my college perspective because I, like all these kids, would be like, no, I have to sit in class and I'm like, no, give me every class that I could take online and that's what I did. I did 95% of my classes online. If I couldn't teach myself something, then I'd sit there in class and hate it because I had to drive like down to college and like I could be in the tree right now, like this class is at the most inconvenient time of my life. But where?

Speaker 1: 18:21

where'd you go to school? I went to Penn College and all right, yeah, yeah, I know where that is, uh. So basically high school and college were kind of the same. Like you took majority of online classes, you got to hunt all the time and really live life to the fullest. It kind of seems like and and just enjoy yourself yeah, and then I think I had to work.

Speaker 2: 18:44

I got my like LPN, so I'm a nurse. Um, I think I only worked for like three years as an LPN. And then we had my daughter and Adam was just like, well, I just rather you raise her than we put her in daycare.

Speaker 2: 19:00

And now I hunt all the time again he's just is amazing it really is like I honestly have the best husband in the world because he's like no, like I don't mind that you're out hunting and fishing and doing all the things that you love, because you're teaching our daughter about it, even though she's like only six months old at the time when I first started doing it. He's like you're gonna be teaching her. So he just is like go do it, I don't care oh my god, the dream, the dream it really is the dream.

Speaker 2: 19:31

Like you could have never told me that this is what my life was gonna be like. I'd be like yeah, you're joking.

Speaker 2: 19:37

Like it's just not possible and I think my dad kind of like slightly is jealous of course I mean I, I'm jealous yeah, well, you think my dad would be like happy for me, but he'd be like Samantha, you're never gonna shoot a buck with her. Like you're just kidding yourself that you like like not that he doubted me, but he definitely doubted me. Like he just kind of would be like putting it into perspective, like what are you gonna do when the baby cries?

Speaker 1: 20:04

And I'm like she's going to cry, it's all right, there's a girl oh my God, I forgot her name and I think she's originally from PA and she hunts with the trad bow and she hunts with her daughter. I can't remember her name. Is it Becca? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1: 20:25

Yeah, oh yeah, I think so yeah, that's why I started following her and that's how I was like I'll make it work. Yeah, I, I followed her and still do, and the minute she got pregnant it did not stop the grind. And even when the kid was born and I was like it is phenomenal to see that, because it's it's not only just a testament of what she can do, it is also your such valuable skills that she teaches that kid everything, and I think these are things that are lacking in our youth right now and which makes I think this, this country, just so scary. I work in um child psych with children, obviously child psych with children, but uh, so I work in psych and everything like that.

Speaker 1: 21:10

So I I see it in patient and it's you know what, what you guys are doing. You know it is absolutely incredible one you get to live out. You know a dream but then also your. You know, know valuable skills and time, good quality time spent with, with, your daughter.

Speaker 2: 21:29

Yeah, you're never gonna get this like time back. Like I couldn't imagine having to go to work and coming home and missing the eight to ten hours that you're at work, like, and had someone else watching your kid, like because I have it. I'm just like I don't know how people do that and like I know that some people have no other option. I get that, but at the same time, I think child care for we like looked at it, if we were going to put her in daycare would have been almost my whole check and then the rest of it would have been gas. So I'm like, why, why?

Speaker 2: 22:06

would I and now I I do like some social media work, like I do make money, but like I'm like, uh, like I make enough money that I can help away, I pay my truck payment. That's good enough for me that's, that's.

Speaker 1: 22:23

That's very important too. You, you need to have a truck, yeah, um man, yeah, it's. It's like I said, it's incredible to hear, um, you know, and looking, I'm very excited to to also watch the journey for for you guys too, and and see everything like it's just a.

Speaker 1: 22:45

It hits differently for me because, basically, you know, I don't have my kids yet yeah um, but I have kids at work that I you know and I wish they always ask me, you know, and as long as they're there, I tell the kids as long as you're here, you know, if you're here for six months, you're my kid for months. I'm taking care of you for the most part, like I'm doing, you know, I watch these kids grow and everything like that. But so many of them want to go out hunting and they would love to go hunting and they just want to learn because it's something. We're in the inner city, where I work as an inner city, so there's no type of wildlife, no trees, no, nothing. So everything that I tell them about hunting is so fascinating and they just want to know more and more and more. But of course I'm like listen, guys, I wish I could, you know, I really wish I could take you guys out. But yeah by law.

Speaker 1: 23:36

I I cannot, um, you know so, and I like, I like my job and I don't want to get fired because I need the money. So it's a bit different, but it's really I would. I want a lot more parents out there to do this with their kids and I know obviously a lot of parents try. They just don't have the opportunity and you're very fortunate that you have the opportunity. But you know, I would, I would love it for my kids to to have that opportunity and I think a lot of parents now listening to this would would agree with that as well yeah, definitely, and like I don't know.

Speaker 2: 24:14

Sometimes it's just like a small thing, like I've been foraging for berries lately and like it's not something that my dad did with me, like but I just like seen them and I was like, oh, I'm like these are raspberries. I was like, well, this is something Huntley and I are gonna do every year from now on, because then she's gonna know like this time of year you can go pick raspberries and blackberries and blueberries. And how much money did I just save us from going to the grocery store. Like this kid eats like a grown man. She needs like I picked a quart of blueberry or no, I picked a quart of raspberries last week and she ate them all already. Like they're gone.

Speaker 2: 24:49

I'm like oh yes so we went and picked more today with my niece and like they were just sitting there eating raspberries, I'm like, all right, you guys are happy, I'm happy picking a quart of raspberries that's that's the life, though that that's exactly what it should be.

Speaker 1: 25:06

It's what I think you I mean humans are meant for yeah, not eating all this processed food and everything like that.

Speaker 1: 25:14

Like we have, um, we have berries and everything like that zucchini growing out and we don't have a bit where we live it's you don't get much property for what you know, so we're making whatever we can work and we're trying to get a place where we can have our own farm and because one it's healthier this way, but it's also it's an arm and a leg to to buy any all this stuff. Like you can't go to the grocery store with 200 and buy the things that you really should have.

Speaker 2: 25:48

Yeah, exactly, it's insane. And like I, so my dad has grown sweet corn my entire life and like my dad sells his sweet corn for $3 a dozen or like maybe four. And like you go to the grocery store or even like some of like the markets that are like local grown and it's like six to seven dollars for half a dozen years or even a dozen, and I'm just like you're insane. I'm like you just drive like 20 minutes up the road you can get it for four bucks and it's really great corn. But we, like I started a garden here this year. I always had like raised beds, but then I also had my parents because their next road over. Like I walked to their house every day and like it's nice to live that close because then, like we just kind of share everything. But I started my own garden this year and I'm like, wow, this saved us so much money.

Speaker 1: 26:39

Like not that I always bought a lot of stuff, but now I don't have to buy much right you're, you're getting your meat from, from hunting, you're growing crops and everything like that, and it it saves and helps cut down on a lot of things where you guys will have that extra, extra money for for other things as well and for for your kids. Um, you know, having a second one on the way. You know what? How are you planning to battle that with two kids and also an upcoming hunting season as as well?

Speaker 2: 27:11

I well I should get through archery season and rifle season still pregnant, so I plan on just hunting my way through it, doing what I can do and carrying huntley the same way that I do on my back um. I'm due in january, so turkey season next year should be rough yeah um, I also think the new baby will be big enough to be in the pack and huntley, my daughter will be big enough to walk and we'll just kind of take it day by day as it goes, yeah, yeah, no, it's it is what I mean.

Speaker 2: 27:52

It is what it is. I just enjoy getting out like. I didn't get to hunt much with turkey season with Huntley this year because my dad well, my dad, my dad and my daughter went with me one day. My dad carried her. It was kind of awesome to have that, but most mornings my mom was still home and she's like, hey, I'll just watch her, so you have the opportunity to try to get a turkey while like while you can. Because after like the first week I think, my mom had to go back to work or something, or like work earlier and she couldn't watch her. So I was like, all right, yeah, work earlier. And she couldn't watch her. So I was like, all right, yeah. And then the day that I shot my turkey it was like durantial downpouring and I was like, well, I'm not going to take her at all if my mom can watch her.

Speaker 2: 28:32

So I didn't take her and then I ended up shooting a turkey and I only bought one tag, because for like the last five years, I bought two tags and I never shot my second turkey, or I never shot a turkey in general yeah, really yeah, I didn't shoot a turkey for five years. I had a very rough time. I missed a lot of turkeys in five years and it was pretty rough on my ego. But then I shot a turkey the first week this year.

Speaker 1: 28:57

What's? What's the turkey, turkey population? Look around you.

Speaker 2: 29:02

It's coming back. It was pretty rough, in my opinion, for the past five years and like we have turkeys it's not that we don't, but they're like three and four year old birds. We didn't have like a lot of two-year-old birds for a while. Like if there was two-year-old birds, they got shot and it just, or like they just got messed with so much because we do have such a heavy population of hunters that by the time that you'd be like getting around to hunt a different bird that didn't get shot or something like it just they're call shy and it just just have to play the game right.

Speaker 2: 29:40

And I am not the best turkey hunter. I don't. I don't know why. My dad taught me everything he knows and he tells me I get too in my head over turkeys and I just care too much about it and I'm like, well, I do. I'm like I, I do care a lot.

Speaker 2: 29:54

Like I was 37 weeks pregnant with Huntley and I missed a turkey because there was like brush. But I thought the when the turkey stuck his head up, the brush was going to be like high lower than his head and I was going to have the perfect shot. And then I missed this turkey and my dad was like, what are you doing? And I was like, well, now I look at it and I see it. But in the moment it looked completely different. And then I didn't shoot a turkey while I was pregnant with her and I was like, live it. And I said if I didn't shoot a turkey this year I was done turkey hunting because I just had gone for so many years and having so many mess-ups that I was like I just my mind cannot take it. But turns out I was like five weeks pregnant and just hormonal when I was having all these thoughts um, yeah, no, turkeys, it's.

Speaker 1: 30:48

It's one of those things that the population is on this like I don't even know what you want to call it, but it's a lot of places it's. We had michael chamberlain on and he was like, yeah, it's in a decline. You know, there's a lot of work that needs to be done. I mean, here in jersey, like one of my main spots, like I've tried to get into turkey hunting and was never successful because there were no birds in my area, like you hear, maybe like one or two, and finally this year I was hunting an area that we were just on birds every hunt, every single hunt. Um, you know, and it lit this fire underneath me where it's like, all right, now I understand everyone's obsession. Like I get it now?

Speaker 2: 31:32

yeah why people are they they like, seriously, I love turkey hunting. Like I'll spend two months ahead of time listening to them, like, once they start gobbling, like I am listening to turkeys every single day Cause I just love it, and like I'll spend time in the woods I'll know exactly what those turkeys are going to do. And then, like opening day, it all gets messed up. And then I'm like, well, I'm like I really put a lot into this and my dad's right, like I put too much into it. It's not like I just don't go and just do it and that's probably what happens to me, but I don't know. We did have a lot of. We had a lot of turkeys this past year, but we also had a good hatch last year and, like this year, I've seen a lot of poults around again not as many as I've seen last year, but I did see a lot. So I feel like we had another good hatch. So I'm hoping our turkey population is starting to come back pretty strong yeah, I, I hope so.

Speaker 1: 32:31

I mean I hope so for for everyone you know, and I see that, uh, that's a beautiful bobcat that you killed oh, thank you was um trapped or did you shoot it?

Speaker 2: 32:42

I trapped it. It that was my first thing I ever trapped, and then it was my first bobcat, so it was like amazing.

Speaker 1: 32:51

So you got into trapping and everything like that as well. Did dad used to trap as?

Speaker 2: 32:57

well, yeah, my dad trapped my entire childhood but the money isn't there for it anymore. It's not worth it. So he's like, if you want to waste gas, go ahead and waste gas. But it gave Huntley and I something to do all winter. Just can't sit around. It drives me insane. So I kind of was like, well, I'm like if you, if you'll go with me a couple of times and set a couple of traps, like yeah, I'll get into it. So I started, um, doing the footholds, and then I also got into cable restraints and cable restraints. My dad didn't do it all, so he would go with me, so like he could learn what I learned from doing the cable restraints class that you have to take. And he was like, well, this is really cool.

Speaker 1: 33:43

Yeah, no, it's, trapping is that thing where it's, it's so unfortunate. I think that that's another part of the decline in turkeys, one of the many, but it's it's an artwork that isn't passed out, passed down enough, you know, or I mean it's passed down between family but it's not taught enough to anyone who's outside of that. And hunting is already very restricted, kind of like if you don't have anyone in the family or didn't don't have anyone friends or like that. It's a very tough sport to get into. And then you had trapping, which is even I don't.

Speaker 1: 34:23

I didn't know anyone who trapped. I mean, we grew up. No one trapped, at least that I know of, and I feel like it started to get back on that rise of popularity, not because of the money, obviously, but because of, I think everyone's starting to see man. We have too many raccoons, too many coyotes, too many foxes, too many just nest predators, and these turkeys are getting hit hard and it's something that, as um outdoorsmen, that we have to all do is manage everything, and trapping is an excellent form to to do that, especially raccoons.

Speaker 2: 35:05

Yeah, and if you have the time, like I think that you should get into it, and especially raccoons, because they have those dog proof traps Like anyone can do that, Like anyone could do that. And the guy that um belongs to our camp, he had like a fur trapping store or whatever and he was like Samantha, like you can do this, because anyone can do dog fruit traps, like I'm telling you anyone. And then I was like, well, now I just really want to catch a bobcat and a fisher. I had two big goals bobcat and a fisher. I didn't catch a fisher, but I caught my bobcat, so I was happy yeah, I mean, you got to be happy about that for sure yeah, um, this year I'll hit coons hard, and I want to.

Speaker 2: 35:51

I really would like to try to catch a coyote. I caught a fox last year, but I didn't catch a coyote. They like outsmarted me every day.

Speaker 1: 35:59

Yeah, yeah, listen, coyotes outsmart me all the time. I I coyote hunt and I'm still learning the whole predator hunting and everything like that's just a different aspect, but I just love doing it. Doing it at night is so much fun. But new jersey, we can only use a shotgun, um, so it gives them the advantage without even they're already with the advantage and then you just gave them an even bigger advantage. But you know, it's, it's that one thing, that it's, it's all necessary, you know it's, it really is, and we don't do enough coyote hunting.

Speaker 2: 36:31

Now, I mean, now that I have my daughter, I don't, she doesn't wake up early enough for me to go in the morning and call like I used to. But I keep saying to my husband and he even said to me the other day, he's like we need to go call for coyotes. And I'm like, yeah, I know, I was like maybe I should just have my mom come stay here in the morning so we can go early enough. That it would. We might have a chance.

Speaker 1: 37:02

Yeah, it's, it's. It's an early grind, but you know if anyone out there can do it, you know it's it's something that's very needed for sure. So, as as we're going on in life and you know you got the kid and you know the husband and the other kid coming coming along, you know what. What are some of the goals? You know, do two sit. Are you guys competitive? Do you guys set goals with each other? Do you try to out hunt each other or anything like that?

Speaker 2: 37:27

I think I would try to out hunt him, but he doesn't really care. Like he's just like I want you to shoot a big buck, I want you to do this, I want you to do that, and I'm just like, well, yeah, I want to too, but I also am hunting with a toddler. Like I'm going to shoot the first buck not the first buck, I see, but if it's like not a bonafide spike buck, I'm going to shoot it. But he's just I don't know, he just always wants me to do it. Like he doesn't care if he shoots a deer. Like he was with me when I shot the buck that I shot last year with Huntley and he was just like. I was like are you gonna shoot it? Because he had less time than I had? I'm like I have every day. Like I don't care.

Speaker 2: 38:03

He's like no, he's like I want you to shoot a buck with Huntley, like it's gonna be amazing and I'm like okay okay, if you say so, yeah like all right, and then he shot a bigger buck than me and I was like this was that's why.

Speaker 1: 38:18

That's why he wanted you to take that one, because, yeah, makes sense now.

Speaker 2: 38:22

So maybe secretly, maybe secretly, he's competitive yeah, I think he doesn't care about it as much as I do, like he loves hunting, but it's not the same sense not, yeah, not in the same sense like I'm telling like you know what time is, like what part of archery season it is, just by how my mood is in the house. I'm like like opening day, I'm happy, it's great, I love it. But by the end of the season, like Halloween comes around and I still don't have a deer, like don't talk to me.

Speaker 1: 38:58

Oh yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2: 39:01

Because I'm just like mind blown and like annoyed and like where we hunt there's a lot of other hunters. So like nine times out of 10, if I don't have a deer at that point, even a doe, it's because people are setting up 75 yards for me. And I'm just like you have no common sense in a way, and like I hunt state game lands. I know how it is. I, I love it, I love where I hunt, but at the same time, people, when people do that, I'm just like of course there's like 75,000 acres of game lands hunt somewhere else besides 75 yards for me uh, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1: 39:39

It's the most frustrating thing about hunting state land, but I don't know it's so rewarding. I, you know we, we try to get private. You know we've. We've gotten private, I think, the last like three or four years. I don't know if we'll get it this year. I'm looking around but also I don't don't't really need. I got a lot of public access right, but it's frustrating because you have to deal with other people yeah but it's so much more rewarding when you kill on state land.

Speaker 1: 40:11

I I don't care whatever size it is. I think when you kill a buck on state land it just means so much more than you shooting. Uh, somebody's shooting a 160 on private, well, yeah, no shit, you know, I'm not surprised that you did that and congratulations. Yeah, state land deer, public land deer are just, they're a different breed. They're just hunted hard, especially in in a pa, especially like a michigan somewhere where you guys just have such densely populated states for hunting. Where it's, it's an, it's absolutely just insane.

Speaker 2: 40:50

I couldn't imagine and, like I, live where everyone dreams of living, like all their camps are here, so this is where everyone travels and you're like. Well, I just did all this scouting and I didn't see one person that's all year long.

Speaker 2: 41:05

And now you're here and I'm just like, how do you know that this is where they are? Or like even turkeys, like when it's turkey season, and people just show up the day before the season and I'm like how, like I've watched these birds for months and now you're just here and it's like, hey, I always hunt here and I'm like I've never seen you before and I lived here for 20 some years, like I was pretty much born here. You can't tell me that you've hunted here right oh man.

Speaker 2: 41:41

I had that happen to me one year in turkey season. It was like the first year I turkey hunted by myself and these guys came in. I was in the woods at like 4 30 as early as I could get there, and these guys come in, walked directly by me like I shine my flashlight at them. They walked by me and set up 30 yards in front of me and I was just like what, like, like, why would you do that? Like, especially with a shotgun? Like that's dangerous. And like I like called my brother and I was like what do I do? He's like I'll just be over. He's like I'm just coming to get you. Like okay, do I do? He's like I'll just be over. He's like I'm just coming to get you, like okay. And he like came and got me and we like walked in front of them and like went down over the mountain after the turkeys because he's like I'll be aggressive with it. But he knew I wasn't going to be by myself because I was yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 42:29

I'm like what are? I'm like they're dudes and like I'm a girl by myself, like obviously I have a shotgun. But I'm like like what if they try to hurt me?

Speaker 1: 42:38

like yeah yeah people are crazy.

Speaker 2: 42:42

I trust animals way more than I trust people yeah, exactly like people will be like well, I'm worried about bears. I'm like, really, I'm like yeah. I have a lot to be worried about than a bear in the woods yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's I.

Speaker 1: 42:57

I, this year, I think it was this year yeah, it's. I had a hunt, got in there early in the morning, set up, everything was great. I, I had good feeling, it was nice and cold. You just have that feeling in the air that like magic is gonna happen. I, you know the light starts to come up. You know you're, you're shooting lights and all of a sudden you hear crunching. But then I see a flashlight and I'm just like, oh, I'm like you've got to be kidding me. I'm like why why do you wait and listen if you ran behind? Listen, it does happen, don't get me wrong. But come on, at least. Like, don't come in with with the flashlight. Maybe try coming in quiet, like you know the sun's coming up, so, honestly, you don't have to walk in with the light.

Speaker 1: 43:47

You know you could actually make it seem like you're a deer. You could take three steps and then stop. That's what I do. Like, if I get in into the woods late and I see a car, you, you know, if gosh forbid there is somebody out there, I walk in and it'll take me forever to get to my spot, because I'm basically spot, stop, spot and stalking walking in? Yeah, because you don't. You don't know what's moving around. So you know one of my buddies. He's like listen, sometimes you don't have to rush like if you're late or you know. You know deer aren't moving until a certain time in your area. He goes, you walk in, but you act like a deer. You take odd number of steps, you stop and you just listen and that's what they do. Don't ruin somebody else's hunt.

Speaker 2: 44:31

Exactly that's. I can't tell you how many times I've like pulled into the parking lot. If someone beats me, I'm like, well, I know that there's something over here and I'll just go hunt somewhere where there's not someone else because, like I would hate if someone did that to me. And like, even if I pull into a like a parking lot and I'm like I know it goes into a big area and I'll just go somewhere else, like it's not that big of a deal to me because I know where there's other spots, like I up here, or even if it's not a spot that I've gone before, that my dad's taken me, I'm like, oh well, no one's parked here and I've never hunted here. I want to go there, so I'll go do. I'll just go do that and it's learning something different. But I don't know People, just they don't always think about it.

Speaker 1: 45:22

When that happens, you know what. What type of setup are you into saddles yet Like? Are you ground what? So what? What's your paint? Your setup? For us? I know it's different now with with the, with the kid and everything like that. You can't be in a saddle right now, but you know what.

Speaker 2: 45:33

What's your, your setup look like so if I have Huntley, I have the pack and I'm just ground hunting kind of spot and sock. If she's, if she falls asleep, I'll sit down and just kind of chill for as long as she'll sleep and then I'm kind of back on the move because she won't want to sit still. Um, but if I have like if my mom could watch Huntley she wants to watch her when I'm at a night hunt and Adam and I could go hunt, I will saddle hunt. I do have a saddle, but I never thought they were like the most comfortable thing, so I also. We also have lock-ons. It just kind of depends on where I'm going. If it's I want to go hunt somewhere where I've never hunted, I have a climber, my, I use my dad's old loggy bayou. Um, I love that stand.

Speaker 2: 46:20

Um, they're heavier than props yeah, they're heavier than um the saddle, but it's like I'm carrying huntley at this point, so I'm just like yeah that's true too.

Speaker 1: 46:31

Yeah, yeah, that's true nothing changes muscles.

Speaker 2: 46:36

Now that I carry a 20 pound baby around on my back all the time any any female hunters out there.

Speaker 1: 46:42

Perfect example if you get used to carrying the baby, nothing else will. It's just like another workout. It's another time out in the woods. You're, you're carrying the kid in the woods, whether it's a, you know, a stand, a, you know, maybe even dragging out a, a deer. I mean, that's going to be a little bit more, but at least you, at least you prepare.

Speaker 2: 47:00

At least it's like you're constantly prepping yourself for, for the things that are gonna happen in the woods yeah, I got a lot of questions about how I lost the baby weight and I was like, well, when she was five days old, I started carrying her everywhere I went. I'm like I carried her on my like, on the, on my chest. I had chest carriers and every day of Adam's two weeks off while I had her, we went and hung trail cameras. I'm like she was only eight pounds but that was eight extra pounds to carry. Now I'm like now she's 20 pounds how did I?

Speaker 2: 47:35

lose the baby weight.

Speaker 1: 47:36

I carried it I carried the extra baby oh man, yeah, no, it's, it's insane that is. It's a you. You would never have thought of that like I. I would have, probably, if I would have known you, I probably would ask the same question like how, how does one, how does one do that? But it makes complete sense now. I mean, you hear about it, you know I.

Speaker 1: 48:01

I know a few ladies, um, they love working out and I mean the minute the kids out and about and they're able to do it, they're back on the grind and and working out and as long as you're active like it's just common kind of knowledge it's just gonna to automatically happen.

Speaker 2: 48:18

Yeah, it just got to. I don't know I I used to work out, but I feel like I just tried to be outside as much as I could with Huntley, so like the postpartum depression never snuck in, like as long as I could still do what I loved, I was like I feel like I won't get depressed and I didn't. But I like dealt with a lot of depression while pregnant. It just pregnancy is a very hard thing that women go through. It's very hard for some reason. I don't know why growing a whole baby is difficult, but it's just so. I just was like as long as I'm outside, like I feel like I can't be sad.

Speaker 1: 48:54

So I just tried to do as much as I could outside and thankfully she was a very good baby and was cooperative with it, just kind of went with it or or anything like that, like where you had to have a certain like game meat or a certain dish or certain style, where you just had to keep on coming like anything, anything unique or anything like that.

Speaker 2: 49:26

I feel like I just craved elk the most and then, naturally, my dad didn't shoot an elk last year, so we had no elk meat. I was just like trying to do different things with venison to make it seem like, and it just was not. But I also, we butcher all of our own stuff, so we do like all of our own summer sausage, all of our own bologna, so I like all of our summer sausage. And my dad was like I know, I tell you that you need to like eat the summer sausage so we don't have a bunch of it at the end of the year. But, samantha, like you're eating all of it. And I was like, yeah, like well, I'm not supposed to eat lunch meat, so I'm like this is the closest thing to lunch meat that I can have.

Speaker 1: 50:08

Oh man, that that's it's, it's a. Completely. I love hearing this, this different aspect of it, because you know we never get to, you know you never get to really hear about it. You know, um, for for, at least for for me, because I don't. Yet again, like I said, it's growing so much.

Speaker 1: 50:28

I think females have really just taken off in the outdoors and it's it's great to see. And you know, if I have daughters, I, I hope they do the same. But now you're still, you get to like hear everything that you guys have gone through while pregnant, while you know, after having the baby, everything like that, and it's like you guys are just, you guys are better. I, I tell you, you guys are better than this. My fiance is a better shot we're talking about at the, at the show, and she might be able to hear me. I'm not sure, but I straight up tell everyone, if she, just if she really got stuck to it and practiced a little more, she would blow me out the waters. I, I don't have nearly as good as a shot as her, and it's it's crazy to say, because I've been shooting so much longer than her and this is what I do every, almost every single day, like I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 1: 51:28

And you know she outshot actually a bunch of the guys at the at the shoot where I was really proud of her. We did the iron bear and she made it further than a bunch of guys and they all can shoot really well too and she impressed a lot of people, she impressed a lot of me and I think if she likes it and she gets serious about it, she may be a better, definitely shot. I don't know about hunter yet. I think that's gonna take a. I think that going to just take her a little longer to learn.

Speaker 2: 51:58

It does.

Speaker 1: 51:59

But eventually I do like she probably can. I think she, I think I just had better patience than her. And that's the only thing I work with were kids. I was with 20 or 30 kids who were screaming and and got it. So I get, I've learned. My patience is just different. But besides that I mean it's yeah, no. And one of my other, he's the same thing. It's like his, his wife, he's like she's such a better shot than I was when, when I first started out like I don't know, like I don't know if you guys are just more patient in that sense you guys just have more I I really don't know, because a lot of the girls and like I that you see, they're excellent marksmen, they, they can expect with a bow, with a gun, like they can, they could shoot where we, maybe we rush. I think maybe guys rush or impatient, I think maybe a little more in certain stuff. I don't know what it is, but it's it's.

Speaker 2: 52:54

It's phenomenal to see I feel like I was a better shot Like not that I'm a bad shot, I'm still really good but I feel like I was better when I first started out, like when I first bought a compound bow. My groups were way better the entire summer than they are now.

Speaker 1: 53:12

Do you think that's because you're overthinking right now, because you know so much?

Speaker 2: 53:16

Because I know so much that I just like get to in my head and, like when I first got my compound bow, I broke my foot three weeks before I went and picked it up because I had to like order it and everything. So I went and picked it up and I had a broken foot and I was shooting on crutches. So the fact that I was a better shot then than I am now is kind of concerning.

Speaker 2: 53:41

Like I had a broken foot on crutches and I was just like oh yeah, this is cake but my dad like always told me I was such a great shot and like now we shoot and he's like what are you doing? And I'm like I don't know. I'm like my groups at 30 yards will kill a deer. They will, but I'm like they'll get better. Just give me some time.

Speaker 1: 54:00

I don't know if this is for you, but I do a lot better when I'm shooting at like an animal, like I like to do printouts. So I actually will get a full and I will have to shoot at like an actual deer. I can't shoot anymore at dots unless, like I'm originally sighting in a new site then like I kind of do it, but then after that like I can't do it, like I, I just I could put my grouping at dots is horrible, horrendous, compared to my grouping at like something real, like a 3d target or something like that. Do you have you noticed that?

Speaker 2: 54:37

I feel like I would definitely do better at 3d targets, because we've shot 3ds a couple times but not a lot, and like I feel like I definitely do better.

Speaker 2: 54:47

But we just have at what our house and at my dad's house if I go shoot with him my dad built like a backstop and then we have our targets that we just set in front and then over here we did the same thing. So like that's what I shoot every night, every morning, that's what I'm used to, and like now that I've been shooting for a couple weeks consistently, or even a couple days consistently, my groups are definitely better than they were a couple days ago. But there's actually an archery shoot this weekend, um, not far from me, and I was like, well, we should go. And then I was looking at it it's just for traditional, like traditional archers, and I was like dang, but the next one's off in August and it's on my birthday weekend and I was like, well, we know what we're doing for my birthday are you, you're, so you're a Leo yeah same here, august 5th.

Speaker 2: 55:37

August 15 15th.

Speaker 1: 55:39

Okay, all right, all right, leos, that's.

Speaker 2: 55:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 55:42

Always love having Leos on. I don't think you're like the second or third Leo that we've had on and that's about it and a hundred and almost 200 episodes. So would you ever consider going to a trad setup?

Speaker 2: 56:00

I've thought about it, because now I have the time to learn something new, that I've like thought about it and I'm just kind of like ah, like, if we have extra money I would probably do it, just because it would be something different.

Speaker 1: 56:17

Yeah, just because it would be something different. Yeah, yeah, but do you do um with that? Like? I know pa offers so much like, do you do any flintlock hunting, like, because I know you guys can do a lot like, a lot more than what most states can do and you guys have that all. Like I saw it, I think, um, I got a something with the flintlock. It said something let me, let me take a look, and I was like what it's like, what the hell is that? I mean, I've never seen that once in my life on any hunters, and I know pa does have that yep, I um my dad's big on saving a doe tag for flint flintlock season.

Speaker 2: 56:54

Uh, so the past four or five years I've flintlock hunted and actually the first time my husband ever shot a duck like a flintlock like literally we've never taken him to shoot a flintlock and we were like, oh, let's go flintlock hunting and we'll take the bow.

Speaker 2: 57:15

And we like seen this deer spot and stock. The snow was super deep. And he was just like, well, I'll just sneak up there with my boat. And I was like, no, just take this. And my dad was with us, which was kind of weird that all three of us were hunting together. But my dad was like here, just take the flintlock. And I was like, what do I do? And he just kind of like was like just do this and then do pull this and then pull that and just just go. And he shot this deer at like 60 yards off hand and just knocked it down.

Speaker 2: 57:47

And I was just like I looked at my dad. I was like, did that just happen? I'm like did he actually just hit, like shoot that deer? And it's like like if I would have done that I would have missed or the gun wouldn't have went off because that's how right. And he's just like, yeah, I think he did. It's just like this. And it was probably like one of the first years Adam was hunting with us. So he was like on this, like hunting's easy thing, and I'm like you just wait. I'm like you wait until you don't shoot a buck and you're gonna be so mad. But yeah, then he shot a flintlock doe, first time ever shooting a flintlock, and I was just like what kind of luck is this?

Speaker 1: 58:27

yeah, you, you did say in the beginning that he's probably some a lot of luck involved and you know now it's gill and you know he's he's come a long way but the first year you gotta that that's the first year definitely has got to be a lot of luck on the side and especially something you've never I've never even shot. I've never shot one of those and I've been shooting guns since I was like 10.

Speaker 2: 58:47

Yeah, they're super cool.

Speaker 2: 58:49

I never used to want to shoot one Cause I was always like, like, cause the the spark? I was like I have long hair. I'm like my hair is going to catch on fire and my dad's like, no, it's not. I'm like, but then one year I needed a buck. Um, I think it was probably like 2018 or 2019. I didn't shoot a buck and I, like seriously needed a buck. So I flintlock, hunted super hard and then, ever since then, I've just kind of done it, Cause I was like, oh, my hair is not actually going to catch on fire. Little girl fear there.

Speaker 1: 59:22

Listen, I mean I, I don't. I mean I don't have to worry about my hair catching on fire. I mean I really, you know, but gosh forbid. I like do something and touch my girlfriend or fiance's hair wrong. She'll kill me. She's obsessed and I know that's one of her fears, like when it comes to hunting. Make sure nothing's wrong with the hair.

Speaker 2: 59:45

That's about it but like the fear of my hair catch because like it's a bit like I don't know if you put too much powder and it's a big spark and like I don't know I've just seen the guys shoot him before I'm like that's a big, like a big spark that comes out of them and I was just like I feel like if my hair is down it would catch on fire.

Speaker 2: 1:00:05

My dad's like this is why you just need to cut all your hair off and I'm like not happening, yeah, no I feel like, oh, go ahead he always like growing up. Every time we went hunting he's like your hair is showing, like the deer are gonna see it, and I shot a lot of deer. I'm just like really, dad, like they don't care um, and you talked about you.

Speaker 1: 1:00:32

You guys go out west. So what is out west? Like what? Where do you got? You said montana. I believe you said yeah we've.

Speaker 2: 1:00:39

We've gone to Montana the past couple of years. My dad used to go to Colorado. Adam and I are actually debating going to Colorado for a late season elk If my dad doesn't get an elk tag this year, which he's in for like a second chance drawing for Montana. He didn't get drawn the first time. So if he gets a second chance drawing he'll go in September and we go to Montana and go elk hunting and we usually get mule deer tags. And then Adam and I have turkey hunted the past three years, which it's kind of weird because Montana people don't really fall turkey hunt but we go in the fall for, like my dad's elk hunting.

Speaker 2: 1:01:19

I'm like, well, I'll get a, I'll get a turkey tag and then I can turkey hunt. It's like the most expensive turkey tag I've ever paid for. But I turkey hunt with a bow and we've shot a couple turkeys. My brother actually went with us last year, didn't even plan on going to Montana. Like the day before we leave he's like, all right, I'll go and like, packs his stuff, takes his bow, buys Montana. Like the day before we leave he's like, all right, I'll go and like, packs his stuff, takes his bow, buys a Turkey tag the day we get there and shoots a Turkey that day and I'm just like, are you doing? I'm like how is this possible Then out of my Turkey hunt super hard and get Turkeys like the last day? I'm just like what the heck?

Speaker 1: 1:01:56

Oh man, what? What's it like hunting mule deer? You know, we, we over here, I don't. We've had a few yet again a few people on who've done it, but for the most part it is completely. I know nothing about hunting mule deer, is it? It's a tougher of a hunt yeah, I, I don't.

Speaker 2: 1:02:15

So I've never actually shot a mule deer because they're tough to hunt. Um, they're just complete. I think they're different than hunting white tail Like, and at the time when I was hunting out there for mule deer, I didn't ground hunt at home, I was always in a tree stand. Oh wait, like I just didn't ground hunt at all. I didn't understand how to ground hunt with a bow, and now I have a different concept of it. So I feel like I could be a lot better if I would get a mule deer tag this year and go mule deer hunting. But it's just. I feel like it's a lot of spot and stocking and it's just completely different than what I was used to when I was out there at the time.

Speaker 1: 1:03:03

Yeah, I mean I, that's, that's what I've heard. I heard it's just completely different. Like you said, it is a lot of spot and stalking and you know I would be in the same boat because I don't I'm on the ground. I mean it's very rarely, very, very, very rarely. I I think I keep a log every year and I think last year we did it. I did it with the fiance once, I think besides turkey and waterfowl, I think maybe two hunts were not in a tree stand or or a saddle out of.

Speaker 2: 1:03:36

I think I got up to 70 something hunts yeah, like until last year I hadn't ground hunted since I was using a crossbow and like I literally would have a broken foot and still figure out how to get into a tree. Like I just didn't have a concept on how to ground hunt. It just was like foreign to me. And then last year I had to like like rework my brain on hunting because I had my daughter and I wanted to hunt and I was like I obviously can't take her into a tree. I like made the joke to my mom. I was like, well, if I have a double man ladder stand, I could like use her car seat and pull her up and just strap her fast. And she's like you are joking, right. I'm like, yeah, I'm 100% joking, but I'm like I could do that.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

I'm like it's safe when she's in a car seat and she's like, no, it's not. I'm like yeah, I'm joking, mom, it's really okay oh my god, yeah, no, I.

Speaker 1: 1:04:42

It makes you a better hunter, though, being that like diverse in it and, you know, having like a just another tool in the trade. It's something that I think we even agreed, like our, our team. It's like we, and I want to say, rely too much on, on saddles and stuff like that, because I will pick a tree and I'd much rather hunt any day of the week up in a tree. I just think it's it's so much better, but there are certain situations where you may not have the opportunity to, you know, and it actually might be just more beneficial for you to be on the ground yeah and having that idea of you know what.

Speaker 1: 1:05:24

I now know how to kind of do it, because you're right, if you don't do it, it throws you completely off. I have, like I remember the first, the first, like real year, uh, biaka started hunting. I had to text one of my buddies, uh, american mike, because he hunts 99 on the ground. He's kills almost everything on the ground, and I was like dude, like I need your help because I have no idea what, like I know how to hunt, I know how to find the sign, but like setting up a ground blind and everything, or, and doing all this like this is your specialty, help me out. He let us uh hunt his spot and everything like that. And it was. It was amazing. It was like, oh wow, like this is, I could see it's very comfy, I do.

Speaker 1: 1:06:06

I think I get a little too comfortable on the ground. I think that's where what hurts me a little bit. I kind of sometimes will forget I'm hunting and I'll just get complacent on the ground. But um, and I, I think it's, I think it's necessary for everyone to to do and it's something that, yet again, I haven't really done since 2014, maybe 2014, I think 2015, yeah, 2014.

Speaker 2: 1:06:33

I would say the last time I really because I'm 14, 15, when I really hunted on the ground yeah, it's, if you don't do it, you don't like you just kind of forget how to do it, like I shot a lot of deer with the crossbow on the ground and then I like got my compound bow and I was like, no, this doesn't seem possible on the ground, but it is like yeah yeah, yeah it's very much like really rethink it but it completely is.

Speaker 2: 1:07:03

And like my dad um, shot a buck that I called dibs on but like at the same time like it doesn't, like you're hunting game lens, like it doesn't really matter. But I was like if I'm gonna shoot a buck, that's the buck I want to shoot. And then I think I was sick and I didn't go hunting that day and it was like super hot but also super windy. So my dad went and was ground hunting and shot, like walked up on this big 10 point that I wanted to shoot and shot it at like 20 yards and it's just kind of like he like said, like he told me he did that and I was like that's impossible, like this was before. I was like ground hunting with my daughter, so I was like you just walked up on it and he's like, yeah, it was bedded down and I just it was windy and just happened and I was like yes, I'm like you're lying to me.

Speaker 2: 1:08:01

I'm like you're lying to make me feel better about this situation. And he's like no, this is what really happened. And then, like now I like let it go eventually. But I was just like I'm like well, that's pretty cool, dad, like pretty neat that you did that yeah, no, I.

Speaker 1: 1:08:17

I would say I, I don't know it's, it's such a I. I give all credit for people who get it done on the ground spot and stock what, what. It doesn't matter what you're doing. I give credit to anyone who kills a deer, but doing it on the ground, because it's something, yet again, that I don't do. It's like it's even harder, you know, and it's yet again that I don't do. It's like it's even harder, you know, and it's it takes even more skill than anything um any dabble in any black bear hunting yeah, um, I've actually shot two bear in my hunting career.

Speaker 2: 1:08:50

I shot one when I was four. No, how old was I? I'm going to say 14. I think I was 14. I got a triple crown that year and then I just shot one in 2021 again. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:09:15

Love it, love, love. How do you, you guys, eat the bear?

Speaker 2: 1:09:18

yes, so our camp does a big um bear roast. So all the bears that get shot, most of the meat gets donated to our camp, and then we have a big party, memorial day weekend, and they roast the bear and we share it with all of our friends and family. That's a great time. And then I also like started the bear roast that I had. I've made like bear cheese steaks and like bear roast at home and it's just like some people don't like bear meat but I think it's amazing.

Speaker 1: 1:09:48

I think people are crazy who don't? I had somebody on the the other day who, um, he does it, he'll eat it and he, he, you know he's not a big fan of jersey bear, I guess, but um, because I guess, yeah, I get it in some areas in jersey like you're not gonna get. You know the tasty of the bears, of bears, but I mean the bear that I that I killed a couple years ago. I mean this thing was, it was delicious. I mean it to me. It tasted like I remember it out and it defrosted the first time and it just smelled sweet to me.

Speaker 2: 1:10:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:10:24

And that was phenomenal. And even you know Bianca, she loves it, she loves making bear meatballs and everything like that. And you know she wasn't I don't think she ever had that on the bingo card Of when she was older. She was going to be eating bear and everything like that. Because she didn't. I don't think she was, I don't think she ever had that on the bingo card of when she was older. She was going to be have eating bear and everything like that, cause she didn't grow up in in a hunting or outdoor family or anything like that. So it's bear hunting is like a necessary thing every year for us and we talk about it so much on this podcast. I think people probably get sick and tired of it, but I will never stop talking about it so much on this podcast. I think people probably get sick and tired of it, but I will never stop talking about it. Um is how the emotions for bear hunting are. Just it's unreal.

Speaker 2: 1:11:11

You know I have so far I've never experienced anything like it, because you are hunting our apex predators yeah, I love bear hunting and like we pa now has like a longer bear season in a way, like where I live there's like a long archery season and like they have the most. I think it's the inline season now and then we have rifle season and where we hunt rifle seasons four days, yeah, four days. So like we gang hunt for rifle season, we go down to my dad's camp and we hunt with the guys and like bear like that's bear season to me is the four days of rifle hunting, like I I archery hunt them, I do, I inline hunt them. But like I honestly feel like I'd be sad if I didn't get to bear hunt and rifle season with the guys, because it's just my, it's just amazing to be with all the guys and like it's just one big family, even though none of us are really there are relations, but related, like I'm not related to most of them, but they're my family. It's just awesome and like.

Speaker 1: 1:12:18

I always went on an archery hunt one.

Speaker 2: 1:12:18

And like I'm not related to most of them but they're my family, but it's just awesome and like I always went on an archery hunt one and like I said to Adam I was like I don't really want to shoot another bear with the rifle like anytime soon, like I'd rather see him get a bear he hasn't gotten one yet yeah, adam hasn't shot one.

Speaker 2: 1:12:34

He missed one with the bow, not last year, the year before, I think, yeah, the year before, because I was pregnant with Huntley at the time, um, and it was like a far shot and I think he hit a twig or something and it threw his arrow. So I was kind of mad at him that I was like you're gonna shoot a bear with a bow before me. I'm like that was my next goal and you're just gonna beat me at it. But, um, he doesn't care, he's just like I just want to shoot a bear and it's his biggest goal and you're just gonna beat me at it. But, um, he doesn't care, he's just like I just want to shoot a bear and it's his biggest goal and I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:13:04

I'm like it took my dad 20 years and my dad is like the ultimate hunter took him 20 years to shoot his first bear, but now he shot five. So wow, wow yeah, that's a big turnaround yeah, dad, he has five triple crowns and it's just insane to me.

Speaker 1: 1:13:23

But no way it's. That's, that's phenomenal, um, so we're gonna get into some a few more. We always ask these, these questions, before we do wrap up a, a episode. Um, this has been an absolute phenomenal discussion. I mean, this is eye-opening and just it, just a whole different aspect of of hunting. Well, one thing I do want to get in before we get into that is have you had any difficulties online with social media because you're a female or you?

Speaker 2: 1:13:58

it's all been positive for you when I was younger I did, like when I first started social media I had a lot more hate than I have now.

Speaker 2: 1:14:07

Sometimes if I have like one video go viral on TikTok, then I'll have something, but I feel like my page doesn't really reach a lot of people anymore, so like I just don't get the hate that I used to and I don't mind it no, no, yeah, no one wants the hate no, no one does, but like when I do get, I think I I got hate for my bobcat and it was like posted on this like twitter account, that's like specifically for anti-hunting, and there was a lot of hate about that and there was a lot of mean things said about like me taking my daughter, or a lot of just like mind blowing things that people would say about a child that I'm just like it's, it's a child. How do you say that, like I don't care what you say about me, but don't involve her.

Speaker 2: 1:14:56

Just because I involve her in my in hunting and in my pictures you crossed a line. But that's kind of like the last hate that I've gotten in a while man, that's, that's.

Speaker 1: 1:15:08

It's crazy how people, if you don't agree or have the same beliefs of them, the things that they do. And I think I love social media, but that is the biggest problem with social media is you could say whatever the hell you want on social media and nothing. I mean now some people have gotten fired and everything like that because you know, but for the most part you could say and that's yeah, I don't give a rat's ass what you say about me, but don't bring a innocent child that has nothing to remotely even even do with the whole situation. I mean, some people have sick, you know, twisted ways and it is wrong. But you know, it is nice to hear that you really haven't received that like that type of negative attention, because there's some people that just I feel like they get hounded so much.

Speaker 2: 1:16:04

I mean my one buddy, he just and he doesn't, you know, and he just gets hounded for for every little thing that he does, and it's just like it makes no sense what everything you're doing is legal yeah, exactly, and like I remember when I was, when I first started Instagram, so probably like 13, 14 like I me and my one friend who rode the bus with me like we always posted hunting stuff, and like the amount of hate that we got as children is kind of like crazy, and like the things people would say to us then and like it did. It did affect me then because I didn't know how to like let it roll off my back. But like now, when I get hate I just delete it.

Speaker 1: 1:16:45

I'm like I don't care did it make you not want to when you're younger? Post about hunting and kind of like, kind of not show that that side of side of you and in a way it did and like there wasn't like the community of women that hunted on instagram at the time.

Speaker 2: 1:17:07

So I followed some girls from like california that hunted and I was like wow, like they're all the way out there and that's super cool and like those were the people that we were following, were other girls that hunted and like that's. All I wanted to do was find girls that hunted, because I knew one girl who lived two miles up the hill from me that also hunted and like I went to a pretty big school so I just wanted to find other people that hunted. And then I got hate for it and it was just kind of like this is weird and it almost made me not want to hunt. So I feel like that's when it turned to me.

Speaker 2: 1:17:43

Loving hunting was when I came home, shot a deer with my dad, kind of he wasn't he was there, but he just kind of brought me home to volleyball practice. It was like here, go shoot this deer, um, and then it changed because, like I just I don't know it, just that's when I it changed because like I just I don't know it, just that's when I it changed when I got to do it every single day. I would love doing it because it's what I love to do and I didn't have to post that. I was doing it every day. There was like, no like. If I want to post, I post. I didn't. You don't have to post on social media, but yeah, there there's no pressure to, to post or or anything like that.

Speaker 1: 1:18:24

now, um, when did you and this is this is another one um, when did you kind of feel that shift for for more, uh, females getting into the outdoors? Do you think that was like around covid time? Like when do you think you? You cause you said when you first started Instagram, everything like that, there wasn't the type of, there wasn't as many as there is now. Um, you know, and I, yet again, I do feel, and I've seen just this huge increase in in numbers Um, do you think that was during like COVID and everything like that? Like when do you? When do you kind of see for yourself?

Speaker 2: 1:19:03

When did that start happening? I would say I definitely noticed more during COVID. It's definitely been like within the last five years because I feel like when I started dating my husband, like there there still wasn, like I wasn't following a bunch of women. And now, like I feel like I follow mostly women and I don't know, I don't have a thought, like I follow some guys that I think are pretty cool, like they do some pretty cool things, but like I just would rather follow women that are doing what I love to do, because I'm like, yeah, you go girl. Like I feel like I on my TikTokK, I definitely get it. If I do get hate, it's hate for men being like you're not supposed to be doing this.

Speaker 1: 1:19:47

Yeah, yeah, I get, I get it too. I get it. Well, I don't get it on social media, but I will get the comments of, like, just people, I not. I don't think they're trying to say it in a in a mean way, I think they're just trying to joke, but it's like that's how ignorant you are, is like, oh well, you're black, you don't? You know black people don't hunt. And I'm just like that's actually the furthest thing from the truth.

Speaker 1: 1:20:12

Because, first of all, if you go down south, everyone hunts down south, and you go to other countries around the world besides america, everyone kind of has to hunt for their own food or farm or do. Whatever I go, it's not always to help you and I like. The big part of why I love doing what I do for for this company is because, like I said earlier, it's not only about you know just one specific, you know race or group, it's, it's everybody, for hunting is being attacked on all sides. Yeah, and the only way I think it's going to survive is if everyone comes together, whether you're black, white, spanish, asian man, female, whatever you know.

Speaker 2: 1:20:57

You can't just keep attacking everybody just because they're they're different for you from you exactly like it's for everyone if everyone, if, like, if you hunt, you should support someone else who hunts, like that's how that works. It doesn't matter, like I mean I don't know, just because, like some like say, I have a buck on camera and like I know someone else shot it, that's hunting around here like congratulations, like good. Like just because I didn't shoot a buck yet doesn't mean I'm mad, like I'm happy that you got a buck, or if you're just doing something right in the woods, like I'm happy for you, like you just gotta you just gotta support everyone else doing the same thing you're doing.

Speaker 1: 1:21:41

Otherwise, you're tearing down the industry as well yeah, no, I, I agree, and I think I always tell people damn, I don't care if you shoot the same. You know, buck, that I'm after. I just want to know you're dead. So I'm not still going after him, just like send me a picture, like do something, if you know me or you're passing my camera, like you know, put your number in so I could text you, or something like that. So like I'm not wasting my time thinking this deer is still around and I'm moving all these cameras in and going crazy, like I just always want to know, like yeah, it's public land, so you know people are going to hunt the same deer and going to kill the same deer. I just like knowing you know if someone killed something, because that also means like, hmm, maybe this area has a lower doe number so I'm not going to go there.

Speaker 1: 1:22:26

I won't go there to hunt, to kill a doe, you know because I do have some areas where the doe number has definitely dropped off. So I'm not going to go waste my time and go kill another doe there. If I don't have the numbers that I at least think are equivalent to what I should probably go, that I should be be hunting, so I will give that area a break. If I don't know, then it's like damn, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1: 1:22:52

I that's just how I see things, because I, like me, I I'm big into managing and I I do think like I'm not someone who kills everything yeah um, and I pass a lot of deer, but it's it's something that we all should be doing, because at the end they, you know, but me is me, and if you only got one weekend to get out there and you kill a spike, I will be.

Speaker 1: 1:23:15

I always tell people I'll be happy as hell for you. You send me the picture, I will post it on Instagram, I will you know, and if anyone's talking shit to you about it, I will personally defend you and all the guys that we hunt with. We will defend you online and everything like that, because that's not right. We may bust if you're my friend, I may bust your balls for shooting a small deer, for shooting a small deer, but at the end of the day, I'm gonna be busting your balls and we're gonna be eating that same deer and having a beer and and a drink and having a good time, because it that's what the memories it's for, you know, and it's that's what it's all about yeah it is.

Speaker 2: 1:23:52

it's about the memories that you make with your family and your friends. When you're that's what you pass down, like, yeah, that's what I want to teach my daughter, that's what I want down, like, yeah, that's what I want to teach my daughter, that's what I want to raise her on. Is the memories surrounded fine?

Speaker 1: 1:24:05

Yeah, which, which? There's a, there's a lot hunting has. Hunting's One of those things where I think just every, almost every time you go out, it's just a new memory and you're you're just experiencing something new, especially like you said you, you always want to go to, to bear camp and everything like that, because camps are just like it is the the bed, because everyone's there for the same reason and it doesn't matter if you were successful or not.

Speaker 2: 1:24:30

You go back to camp and you have fun, you sit by a fire, you drink some beers, you eat and you tell stories yeah, that's no, I live for being with those guys at camp, like, and most of there was two other girls that kind of hunted with camp but like I was mostly the only girl and because I live here, I was the only girl because women aren't allowed to stay at our camp during hunting season, which I think is wrong why?

Speaker 2: 1:24:59

well, it's just in their like bylaws. They're not supposed to be members and they're not allowed to stay at camp. They have changed it now that if you're hunting you can stay at camp. So my friends that I grew up with like, now they get to come up with their dads and camp, but they'll still have their dad bring their camper and stay outside in the camper because they just don't want to stay inside with the guys and like that's fine. So, you get to be at camp.

Speaker 1: 1:25:25

How, how long has this camp been been around for? Oh my gosh, yeah, so it's very, very I mean yeah, I imagine. Ok.

Speaker 2: 1:25:37

Yeah, like it's starting to change, like I, like I live here, I live literally 10 minutes from our camp, so I don't need to be a member of our camp, but at the same time, I'm like I want to be a member just because I, because I want to be a member, like yeah, yeah I'm like I grew up with these guys and even these, these adult men, guys that pretty much raised me like are father figures to me and I'm like, why can't I be a part of this camp?

Speaker 2: 1:26:09

like you guys will let me come down here and like, do everything else, but I'm not allowed to be a member and that makes me mad. But it's starting to change, it's slow but surely changing, and I'm not allowed to be a member and that makes me mad.

Speaker 1: 1:26:20

But it's starting to change.

Speaker 2: 1:26:20

It's slow but surely changing and I'm looking forward to actually being able to be a member.

Speaker 1: 1:26:26

Hopefully, hopefully in due time.

Speaker 2: 1:26:29

Yeah, and like the fact. So, like, if you have a son, then like, their kids can be members, but like, if, like, if I have a son, or if, like my next child is a boy, he wouldn't be able to be a member because I'm not a member. So, like, I think that's wrong, that, like my son couldn't be a member to camp. I'm like you'd let him hunt with you. You'd let him put all the work in, but he couldn't be a member.

Speaker 1: 1:26:57

And your dad's a member, though.

Speaker 2: 1:26:59

Yeah, my dad's a member. So, like my dad and my brother are members, but I'm not allowed to be a member.

Speaker 1: 1:27:04

And because of that you're like my son wouldn't be able to be a member.

Speaker 2: 1:27:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:27:11

Even though his grandfather and uncle and then probably cousins, Yep. Are members.

Speaker 2: 1:27:19

Yep, and like there's people that like aren't within the family, that I've now got it voted in and I'm like why, why? Can't I get voted? In? Yeah, like can someone forget my name because I would like to know who votes me. No, because you all have treated me like family up to this point. Yeah, I just keep. I'm like my dad doesn't look like everyone's from downstate, so everyone's from, like, schuylkill County. So my dad doesn't go to the meetings anymore because he lives up here.

Speaker 2: 1:27:47

And I'm like, can you just go to a meeting and suggest that I get voted in, because I just want to hear what is said about that of course, but man, yeah, no, that's tough and hopefully, hopefully, it does work or yeah, yeah, hopefully it'll change in time for my daughter to be a member, because if she doesn't live here, if she chooses to move away, then like, I guess she could find new area to hunt, but she always wanted to come back here to hunt and I didn't live here. Like, yeah, she wouldn't have somewhere to stay and that's crazy to me yeah, I, I, we go to the?

Speaker 1: 1:28:25

um, the harris big show a lot, obviously, the grand american outdoor show. Every time we're, we're, you know, looking at all the um guides and everything like that, um, they're, they always go to my fiance and they're always like yeah, like, don't worry, we have stuff for you do, for you to do too. You know you could stay back at the house, you know, eat, and like you know, we have this yada, yada and it's like I remember she was like they just assume that like I don't, I don't hunt, and usually it's it's just the older, it's just the older crowd and they just they always like just the older.

Speaker 1: 1:28:59

It's just the older crowd, yeah, and they just, they always like just assume that she's not going to be hunting, which, whether she hunts or not, like whatever. Just don't assume, because nowadays there's just so many female hunters that it's gotten so popular I hate going harrisburg show.

Speaker 2: 1:29:15

I hate going to outdoor shows in general because that's how I'm treated and like I remember we went up to one of the stands and it was like bear hunting and the guy like was mind blown that I had shot two bear and I was just like yeah, and like it's not, like it is amazing, but at the same time like it's regular old day life to me.

Speaker 1: 1:29:41

Yeah, I think it's so common now Like it's if some random girl came to me and said hey, I killed two bears. I'd be like, yeah, that's, that's impressive. Like I'd be congrats, show me the damn pictures. I want to see the. I want to see the pictures Like oh, let me hear the story. Like it's so common.

Speaker 2: 1:30:02

Like and like, like it's so common, kind of common, like, yeah, and like it's normal. But the amount of people that I'll talk to my husband over me at shows yeah, like it just irritates me because I'm like I taught him how to hunt. I'm like and like the amount of people that don't know. That is just like most people that follow me on instagram. I don't talk about the fact that I taught him how to hunt. I just don't, because it doesn't really matter at the end of the day, like he loves hunting as much as I do and that's what matters yeah, no, I, I, I agree, I, I definitely agree.

Speaker 1: 1:30:35

Well, we gotta we got a few more. We gotta get to our questions that we always ask everybody who is new on this show. It's going to be. These are just going to be quick ones. If you had two weeks, money is not an option, so don't worry, money doesn't. What is your dream hunt and where?

Speaker 2: 1:30:56

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 1:31:10

Probably a moose hunt in alaska. Oh yes, see, this must be a leo thing, because that's my thing moose hunt in alaska. All right, we haven't had a moose one in a little bit. Thank God, we're back. We're back on the board with with moose, um, non-typical or typical whitetail.

Speaker 2: 1:31:25

Oh, that's tough. Um, I don't have to go non-typical.

Speaker 1: 1:31:35

Wow, non Okay, are you a I mean I with the kid you gotta, you gotta be, are you? You're a snacker in the woods? Yes, what's, what's your go-to hunting snack?

Speaker 2: 1:31:50

um our snack sticks that we make from our our venison snack sticks venison snack sticks or berry berry, gummy worms.

Speaker 1: 1:32:02

Those are my second oh, that's a good one too yeah um, now turkey or deer. If you could only hunt one, what would it be? Oh, deer oh okay, all right, I wasn't too sure about that one because of everything that you said about, about turkeys and everything like that well, if I could only hunt one, a deer would give me more food for my family makes sense okay but I also do love white tail hunting a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:32:36

I get very into what buck I want to hunt and all that yeah, but if if you could have your own hunting property, what state would it be in? Would you stay in PA?

Speaker 2: 1:32:54

if I could have my own hunting property and it was where I live in PA.

Speaker 1: 1:32:58

Yes, I would stay in PA okay, but if it wasn't, where would you want to go? Probably montana nice, nice, good choice montana's, my home oh yeah, I I kind of I kind of figured that yeah, like.

Speaker 2: 1:33:18

Maine is mine.

Speaker 1: 1:33:19

I always tell people, maine's, mine. If you could get sponsored by one company, what would it be?

Speaker 2: 1:33:27

Oh gosh, Maybe Sitka.

Speaker 1: 1:33:36

Yes, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 2: 1:33:40

I feel like not many people get sponsored by Sitka.

Speaker 1: 1:33:43

No, no, not not many. I mean when, when you're, when you're in that type of league, you don't really need to, you know everyone knows who you are. I call them the Gucci of the white tail woods, that's my name for them. Yeah, so yeah, that's. That's a great one. I love sitka. I mean I I want their waiters so bad, but I just I'm not shelling out that much money for waiters yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 2: 1:34:06

So I do wear sitka, but I feel like when I bought sitka, like not a lot of people wore it and now everyone around me I see where sitka and I'm just like like people must spend more money on hunting clothes than they used to because like oh, definitely but like I don't know, the sitka clothes that I have are my like warmest, best hunting clothes at the end of the day, like I love them agreed.

Speaker 1: 1:34:37

That's why I tell people I, I tell people all the time I don't, I have no problem like I wear sick, I have a lot of sicka and I but I have no problem with wearing any other type of camo during the earlier time of the year, come winter time yeah you would have to.

Speaker 1: 1:34:55

You have, like a company would have to pay me, like if some company said, hey, listen, we would want to sponsor with you guys, but we're not going to pay you. Well, I'm sorry, I don't think I can move. Do that because you know, at the end of the day, I like to be warm in the winter and what keeps my butt in the woods during a blizzard is sick as clothing, you know. So if you're gonna pay me, then yeah, I will, I won't wear, I won't wear sick and I'll just, I guess, have to freeze or whatever. But that's the only way. Like at least their their winter stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:35:28

I I've never been warmer in the woods yeah, definitely, and we got like their merino wool, like shirt that they came out with last year or whatever it might have been the year before, but like I wore that in early season and it's like it's light and like it's like they're light merino wool or whatever, and like I honestly feel like I didn't sweat as bad either. Like yeah, yeah now that I have that, I'm like, yeah, you couldn't pay me to wear a different shirt.

Speaker 1: 1:35:59

I've heard great things about first light. First light has made a big move. Um, my buddy, who's always wore sicker, he's gotten a lot of first light stuff. So I mean, maybe a first light, you know, came a knock, but yet again we'd be in a much different ball. I'd be. I would be able to hunt all damn day if first light came, came a knock and I feel like I'd be. I would have made it by now. So I think I would. I wouldn't have to go to work anymore and I could just hunt all day yeah, exactly that's.

Speaker 2: 1:36:28

That's the goal. It's a goal to get paid to hunt yep, um one week to hunt.

Speaker 1: 1:36:36

What week would you pick?

Speaker 2: 1:36:39

oh my gosh, the week of halloween most popular answer?

Speaker 1: 1:36:43

I next year. Next, my next thing I'll keep count of in 2025 is that question, because I keep track of the the um game animal, like what you're, and that's always a statistic that I throw out now because it got so popular, but I think that one's gonna have to. I throw out now because it got so popular, but I think that one's going to have to be the next one, because I think majority of our guests say somewhere in Halloween like that Halloween, october, october, time.

Speaker 2: 1:37:13

I have had the most action Halloween day every year in the woods.

Speaker 1: 1:37:20

Best time to be in the woods? I think it is by far the best time. I don't think I've ever been disappointed on Halloween.

Speaker 2: 1:37:27

I have never. I remember one of the first years my brother and I were homeschooled. I shot a buck on Halloween and then he shot a bear, because it was bear archery season and we doubled in that way, so Halloween will always Halloween. I'm like this is the greatest, and my dad's just like I can't, with you too.

Speaker 1: 1:37:53

I'm like, yeah, it sucks, you have to be at work, but you're out, you're killing it at least someone in the family's killing it right now yeah um, if you could hunt with anyone, who would it be now, like we can do if you, if you want to do a family member and somebody famous, or you just want to, you know, say someone, either one. Um, we've gotten some pretty good ones for for, like somebody famous now it could be dead or alive, so you can bring them back, for so could be anyone in the history, does not matter who I feel like fred bear would be cool to hunt with, like my dad and Fred bear.

Speaker 2: 1:38:45

Now would you have a question.

Speaker 1: 1:38:47

Would you do a?

Speaker 2: 1:38:49

Fred bear hunt in Alaska, yeah or moose, that'd be dope. That'd be like amazing You'd have to learn. If I went to Alaska, I'd have to take Adam Instead of my dad which is hard.

Speaker 1: 1:39:03

Well, you know what? We'll give this one an exception, because it's Fred Bear and, like, this is a. So you know what? Why don't you just take all three of them and, you know, have yourself a grand old time.

Speaker 2: 1:39:15

I don't know why he's like the first person that came to my mind, but he's usually the first person that came to my mind, but he's usually my first.

Speaker 1: 1:39:32

Like when you, when you think about you look at the. Mount Rushmore of just hunting Fredbear is obviously up there. Yeah, um god, I should start asking people who's in their mount rushmore. Now I'm gonna ask you who do you think would be in the mount rushmore?

Speaker 2: 1:39:44

oh my gosh, I oh I don't know. I feel like I don't. I feel like I don't have enough history like I. I know hunting, I know a lot about it, but I feel like I don't know enough people in the history of hunting so I'll give.

Speaker 1: 1:40:05

I'll give you um Fred Bear, teddy Roosevelt oh yeah um.

Speaker 2: 1:40:15

I just can't think. You put me on the spot that's.

Speaker 1: 1:40:19

that's why I love doing these questions, because I always put people on the spot man. After that Some people say Ted Nugent.

Speaker 2: 1:40:31

Oh yeah, Ted Nugent. He's a good one. We were up watching Ted Nugent on TV and he was like my brother, literally thought he was our uncle Ted.

Speaker 1: 1:40:45

But like I'm still on the spot.

Speaker 2: 1:40:47

I just can't think of people.

Speaker 1: 1:40:50

And then what's his face? Is that probably say him? What's his shocking?

Speaker 2: 1:40:55

Oh, yeah, jim, shocking.

Speaker 1: 1:40:57

You know, and there's a, there's a few others. I think if you're going down more this generation, I mean gosh there's a lot of people in this generation. Stephen Rinella. I love Stephen Rinella. You know Cameron Haynes yeah you know you can go on that, but like I would say that's a pretty good Mount Rushmore. I'm gonna have to post that on social media and see what people think about that Mount Rushmore, yeah that.

Speaker 2: 1:41:20

think about that, mount Rushmore, yeah that is a good Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1: 1:41:25

I honestly want to thank you so much for coming on. It was an absolute pleasure. I would love to do where we get a bunch of hunters and we just have a great old discussion, you know. Um, it was like I said, it was an absolute pleasure. I think everyone's really, really going to love this episode and it gives a whole different perspective on hunting and it's just no, no problem at all. You, you were amazing, you, you.

Speaker 2: 1:42:07

This was actually my first podcast really yeah, I was super stressed about this, um, but yeah, I was.

Speaker 1: 1:42:14

I'm so excited to like, I was so excited to do this, but I, I think they're, because when I first started, now it's like it's nothing, um, but yeah, doing my first. I remember recording my first, our first, our trailer episode holy hell, that was nerve-wracking, I know what to say and it took me a while. Where you just get comfortable. Now I'm just so comfortable of just like talking and just talking because you have, you have no choice, you got to carry. I love it when you get somebody on like you, or like we have, uh, someone we call squash who just tells story, like people sometimes come on here and apologize to me and I go, no, you made my life so much easier, you brought it you.

Speaker 1: 1:42:58

That's what I want from, from our guests, and you know, I I definitely appreciate listen anytime you want to come on too. You just you just let me know and we can. We can always schedule you and you can, if you want you and you know your husband to come on, if you, whatever get a duo one going on there too, you know, and have you both talk. Um, whichever you want to do, podcasting, I, I love it. Um, so I'm I'm happy that, uh, that you enjoyed yourself and, uh, definitely looking forward to the next one yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 1:43:28

This was so much fun no problem any any last words um, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:43:36

Uh, have a good season this season, um, and I wish you all the luck thank you, thank you, you too, we'll.

Speaker 1: 1:43:42

We'll definitely talk. I will let you know when this is going to be dropping and everything like that and I will, um, do the collabs and you know we'll have clips and everything like that posted. We actually by time. Since we just moved the stream yard, I might as well let everyone know. Um, I decided that I will actually be dropping all these episodes now Once all the StreamYard start, all the recordings from StreamYard.

Speaker 1: 1:44:07

Those are going to go straight on YouTube as well, probably at the same time as the rest of the ones drop, or maybe like a day or two after. I might do that on a Thursday. We're almost done with all our microsoft team recordings, so we are almost there. I think we got like three or four episodes left and then we're back into stream yard, so that is going to be the next thing up. I used I just created this new um header and everything like that. So let me know what you guys think. I'm going to be doing different ones for Halloween, christmas and changing up and doing different types of themes and stuff like that, but that's kind of what we're going to be doing from now on. So yeah, everyone, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode and we'll see you guys next time.