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Speaker 2: 0:42

That's why your tagline like jcl known perfect.

Speaker 1: 0:47

You don't know what that means accidentally drifted my canoe between a sound and she's like charged and like hit. Some hit like the back of the canoe but his head hit the ground before his ass begging, begging and crying to go with my grandfather, go with my father on these deer drives.

Speaker 2: 1:09

You know, the last trip over I shot a great Cape Buffalo with my battle of charging through the grass.

Speaker 3: 1:14

And then the whooping.

Speaker 1: 1:16

And then you hear a body drop. Boys, we are back and it is Thanksgiving week.

Speaker 2: 1:25

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:26

Oh yeah, another week down in the hunting season. I mean how quickly the fact that where it's already about to be Thanksgiving, on Thursday December is right around the corner. It feels like just yesterday we were just starting the season. It feels like just yesterday we were just starting the season. I mean battling those hot days, buggy days, and now it's gun season has now officially like opened up, I think almost everywhere now.

Speaker 3: 1:54

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man.

Speaker 1: 1:57

Happened quick, too quick, definitely too quick, I think. As much as I love this time of the year, it's like damn where to go. I'm already reminiscing and getting ready for the early season next year again, but you know we didn't have much going on this week. But yet again Mr mr frank gets it done again and he stays on fire yep, now is you know, there's another good one today.

Speaker 3: 2:35

Actually I went out on um saturday morning that was kind of a bus for me only ended up seeing two. I saw a small six and a nice size doe, but nothing got close. So decided to go out sunday morning and my cameras were blowing up actually saturday night so I knew it was going to be good, so I rushed to get in there. I was probably in the tree like 4 30 and I was actually. I was telling squatch to shoot. I'm get, I'm just getting set up. I put my camera on and with the moonlight, you know, you can see. And all of a sudden I hear, I hear walking coming and I, I looked to my left and here comes one of the shooter bucks. But I didn't realize it until he was almost right, friggin underneath me, and I was like, oh shit. So I'm like trying to like turn. I'm like, should I turn the camera on, should I not? I'm trying not to move. I actually I made one move and he looked up at me. I'm like, all right, like I'm not moving, like he's, he's gonna hang around, because I've seen him do it all the time, wouldn't you know it? All of a sudden I I like I peek around the tree and I can see him just walking away. I was like I'm like unbelievable man, I can't believe, like I can't win with these big ones, right? So it starts getting late and I've never seen so I was actually telling squats. I've never seen so many deer like especially this year come like one right after the after the other.

Speaker 3: 4:22

I had a group of six does come by, and then another seven, and then another six and then another five. I must have saw like 30 freaking there. I was like I'm like, listen, I gotta shoot one of them, you know. So I was just sitting up there. I was like you know which one am I gonna shoot, you know. So once you know it all, I let all the groups pass and one big single doe comes all by herself and I'm like all right, like this is going to be the one I'm going to shoot her, because then nothing else is going to get spooked or know what's going on, because, like you know, so much could go wrong when you have that many eyes on you. So she was all by herself. I'm like this is perfect, shot her at 18 yards, but it was so freaking windy. I was leaning over the tree and I could just feel myself swaying and it it kind of like messed me up a little bit. It took me like I mean it felt like five minutes, but probably it wasn't even that long just before like I touched off, you know, on my release because I was just swaying and I'm like waiting.

Speaker 3: 5:35

And once you know I told Scott I hit her a little far back so I ended up catching one of her lungs, the liver, and it actually caught her gut and I watched her run off. She went about I don't know about 40, 50 yards and bedded down, and so I just stood there watching her. Actually, I called Squatch on the phone. I was like you ain't going to believe this shit. That just happened to me. I'm like, so I'm just just gonna watch her for a little bit.

Speaker 3: 6:11

And as me and him were talking, she gets up, she walks about another five feet, beds down again. I'm like all right, well, like she's not going nowhere. So I I stood up there for probably another 45 minutes. She gets up, she moves again, and now, like I'm getting hungry, it's getting late. I'm like you know, like the wife's making breakfast. I'm like, all right, I'm just going to sneak out of here, but I don't know how I'm going to pull it off because you guys seen it, it's all open woods and she's directly facing me and I I somehow was able to sneak down and not jump her.

Speaker 3: 6:53

I actually I just turned around, I walk, I just walked the same way. I walked the uh, you know the same way. I came in and I was like I'm just going to give her plenty of time because I don't know how long it's going to take her. And I went in about fourth. I went in right before dark it was about 4 30. I went in and she was right, right where I last seen her. So it was a wrap. I was talking and it wasn't too long before like she expired because she was still warm. So I made the right call. So but we got him.

Speaker 1: 7:28

Yeah, definitely, definitely would, would make the right call. And you know we were talking, um, I think today. Yeah, um, I don't even know that it did hit the gut, because just the way that she reacted like I've personally not really when hitting the gut had a deer, stop and just walk, um, you know, because it did seem like she didn't even know what hit her yep, you know, um, and usually when you, when you get that gut, I know you know obviously why she now got up, bedded, moved fire and got because she was, she was hurting, yeah, but usually, like I've seen deer get hit and they just take off, running, yeah, and then they will. Then they will really get down, bedded down, after running at least 60, 70 yards, maybe into fit. You know something that's thick or something that cover in it. You know, we know what the property looks like. So there really isn't much, especially now I can. Only we saw in the early season when there was more cover. Now I mean, I can only imagine what it looks like with without all the cover and everything like that. So pretty interesting.

Speaker 1: 8:38

And you know that that is the right call and it is. That's a good call to one. You're playing it so safe, but you have eyes on the deer, so you're you're worrying about oh my god, like is this deer dead? Like you know, without seeing that visually, you know you may have just all right an hour. Let's yeah, let's go get her and she probably would have still been well, still would have been alive. But the fact that you're able to see her and everything like that, and just be able to tell that she got up, walked, got back down, well, and I mean didn't go far at all what you said, I think 60 yards and yeah, not even maybe that yeah, yeah, um.

Speaker 1: 9:20

So that that's, that's a pretty and it's it's everything's a great learning lesson. That that's that's for sure and that's, um, that's one of the most important things. But you know to, to give people a quick recap of what it finally started raining and snowing here in new jersey. Um, squash. I don't know what it was like for you. I imagine it was kind of the same thing.

Speaker 1: 9:40

Uh, yeah, we had a mix yeah, so it was something that was very much needed. I mean, it's crazy, I was that day I was in North Jersey um moving some cameras, cause I'm going to try to get up there to to bow hunt um North Jersey and stuff like that, um for does, and everything like that, and just snow, just like snow everywhere and still snowing, and I I moved down, I I go to my you know southern jersey spot and go grab a camera or two and I mean I only went maybe 10, 15 miles, not even I probably just went off the mountain and just rain. And it's just so crazy of how different it is. And I know for you, um, it was snow on the ground for for a. I know for you, um, it was snow on the ground for for a little bit for you, and that's part of the reason probably why you heard that buck coming into, because I think from watching the, the film, there was still some snow on the, on the ground left over.

Speaker 3: 10:41

Yep, Yep. Even even when I shot her, there was still a little left.

Speaker 1: 10:45

So, so yeah, I mean rejoice. Rejoice I mean the the crazy drought is is over, which we knew it was going to be over, um, and I think it's supposed to rain tomorrow and but the weather looks really cold, upcoming um, yeah really really good weather if you, if anyone, I, I know a lot of people are going to be out.

Speaker 1: 11:08

You know it's thanksgiving, you got the day off and everything. Maybe you know we were talking before we started recording. You know sneaking out before, uh, thanksgiving um meal and everyone comes over and everything like that, um and try to get it done and and things like that. But I mean the weather's shaping up to be to be a good one, uh, upcoming for I mean at least for December and January. I mean we're going to start getting some real cold temperature and I heard even you know the fact that it already snowed here is a is a pretty good sign. Hopefully good things to come, because we need snow, we, we definitely do.

Speaker 1: 11:45

The long-term after no we definitely do.

Speaker 2: 11:46

The long term after this weekend is lows in the teens and highs maybe in the 30s for a long stretch into December. So I'm hoping. I'm an ice fisherman. I want some ice. Finally. We haven't had ice here in like two or three years ice fish on, so I can't wait to get out and start ice fishing a little bit again.

Speaker 1: 12:05

I would like to try ice fishing once. That's now that I. You know I've gotten a lot of meat and you know waterfowl is going to start up, uh, real soon. I mean we're going to start pursuing some birds and everything like that coming soon. And you know, with six day gun season coming and you know I definitely want to get into those other things especially. You know I've always said, oh, like I want to go ice fishing, but it's, it hasn't been, hasn't been good good weather, you know it's, it's just hasn't hasn't been good to to do that. You know, get out there, do some squirrel hunting, um, things like that, um, get the small game and everything like that. And hey, the colder it gets and more snowy, the better for predator season, oh man, I can't wait for that I yeah I can't wait.

Speaker 2: 12:48

I'll as soon as, as soon as deer season's over, I'll switch gears into that, you know once it over for you guys in new york.

Speaker 2: 12:55

Uh, so december 8th is our last day of rifle season. Then, uh, the 9th starts, muzzleloader. It goes to about the 20, I think it's a 23rd, then it stops for Christmas and then after Christmas it goes to January 1st and that's muzzleloader or bow, whatever you want to use. So with me, because I use my buck tag in archery, I can only shoot does with the muzzleloader, unless I don't shoot a buck with my rifle. Any unused tags you can use up at the end.

Speaker 2: 13:36

So but I'm hoping that's not going to happen. I hope I can get on a nice buck in the next couple of days here with the. I had one playing cat and mouse with me yesterday. He's kind of aggravating me a little bit.

Speaker 1: 13:47

So you'll get out of it.

Speaker 2: 13:51

Yeah, man, it's just. You know, I sat all day yesterday, all day. I have a really nice wooden box blind that I built, and I built it about five years ago, didn't really put much of a roof on it except for plastic, because I was in a rush to get it out there when I first built it. They lasted five years or so and I started to get a hole in the roof. So back there in the summer I brought it up here, I ripped the roof off of it and put a new metal roof on it and cleaned it up inside and stuff. And the other day I'm sitting here and I said you know, you fix that thing all up. You better bring it back down to the field so when you're off you'll have something to jump into if it gets nasty weather and still hunt. So I fired up the backhoe and put the forks on it and carried the thing back down the road and brought it up into the side of the field where I usually had it up on the top of the field. But I put it on the side this time and my neighbor texts me. He, I put it on the side this time and my neighbor texts me, he's his two acres, butts up to the 58 that I got over there. And he says, hey, he just went through my, my food plot.

Speaker 2: 14:56

I said, oh my gosh, I had my son sitting in the two man. That's kind of in line with his camera. But my son went out of the woods at 945 because it was windier than hell yesterday and he was freezing up there on the top of that hill. So the buck went that way and, uh, I'm sitting there. It's like almost three o'clock and I'm saying to myself, boy, my cameras haven't gone off and give me the notification. You know that they did their test pictures. What the hell's going on? So I check it. The buck went right up the lane right to my stand in the middle where I shot the eight-pointer. He went right through there at 245.

Speaker 2: 15:33

I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like that's like 85 yards away from this box, blind right now. And he's there. So I was hoping and praying. I said maybe he'll make the loop around and come out and check the field for does or something. But man, maybe he'll make the loop around and come out and check the field for does or something. But man, I sat there till dark. But one good thing was I had the mr buddy heater on an arrow. It's nice and warm. The wind was blowing like crazy and I said, well, this is living it up, man, it's nice to be sitting in the blind and tomorrow's tomorrow's supposed to rain, like you said, for most of the day, for most of the morning. So I'm gonna beat feet out to the blind again and sitting there with it raining and the heater on and some sandwiches and hopefully a buck will walk out in the field in the rain. I'll blast them there, you go.

Speaker 1: 16:17

Isn't that the nice thing, like I love. I love what we do with the hanging hunts and going crazy during you know, but sometimes you just gotta kick back, turn the heater on and just enjoy you get to. I think, as much as I love being out in, like purely in nature, in a saddle and a stand bracing the elements there just does get to a point of just like, how crazy am I? I would like let's get into a blind and turn on the heater, and you know it's a different type of you know, because now you're you're a little more comfortable it's like all right like this is.

Speaker 1: 16:58

This is nice and cozy. You know you can, you don't, you don't have to worry as much about your movement too. You know, you can. You know things, things are. I call it the lavish lifestyle, even though it's still really not lavished at all. Um, you know, but compared to what we've done during this whole entire season up to now, it seems pretty lavish for us. You know, if we get that type of style of hunting from, uh, you know the the craziness that we've we've gone through so far, but I mean it's.

Speaker 2: 17:32

it's helps you, though it helps you when you got a bad back, like me, and getting up there and age a little bit. It's nice to have the amenities of sitting in there and being comfortable. It allows you to, you know, really watch a parcel for an all-day sit, but you're not killing yourself. I was able to come home and I was hungry. I was like I wasn't intending on sitting all day. Believe me, I brought a cereal bar and a Dunkin' Donuts, a cold coffee, with me when I went into the stand in the morning and that's all I had the whole day. So when I got home, I was. I was, uh, what do you call it? Hangry. I was angry and, uh, you know when the old squatch gets hangry, you don't want to get in his way. You know. I was like uh, my wife's like oh, I got this. I'm like, just get it, just cook it, just cook it. Let's just make these pizzas. Come on, I'm hungry.

Speaker 1: 18:31

I'm starving. That's very true too. It's it's um being able to now push yourself to doing the all-day hunt versus if you're out battling the, the nature is like like we would in a, in a hang on or in a saddle or something like that. You know the toll that it takes on your body is completely different because I'll tell you those more, those cold, cold hunts, I mean, obviously it's normal your body is burning up so many calories trying to keep you warm and everything like that, that by the time you're done you are just you're spent. So I mean it, it is a use, it's a useful tactic also for anyone.

Speaker 1: 19:00

I don't think it. You know. I can only imagine what it's like in michigan and and some of these places really, really out there in the midwest, with you know no cover and just the wind is just howling. I've heard about you know what it's like being in the midwest with with the wind going and just how cold it is. You know I've I've talked to people in here that have gotten frostbite and everything like that from trying to to battle the, the conditions of of late season and everything like that. So I mean you got to do what you got to do and it is nice doing an all-day sit and being somewhat comfortable and, you know, not putting the taxing toll on your body.

Speaker 2: 19:45

Got to have it, man, when you get older. My old back man from I was always that dude that said get out of the way, I'll lift it and do this and do that. You know it's, it's really caught up with me doing physical labor my whole life. It's just you sit in these metal stands and, like you said, you're out in the elements and what happens to to me is I get like a core temperature and then it'll drop and my body will lock up like it'll start to actually get rib cramps really bad. Frank can tell you he's been around me. When I get one or two, you get those like deep rib cramps and you just like it's like you're having a heart attack but you're not and they hurt like hell for like five minutes. They don't go away too quick. So being able to not have your body get tensed up like that, being able to keep your core temperature warm, it helps. And, like I said, you know I'm covering basically all the same ground that I would be if I was in one of the other stands. They're all within maybe 100, 150 yards away from me and, uh, you know, even two at night. I'll get in there and I'll do my predator hunting out of there.

Speaker 2: 20:51

Put the caller out, uh, the bait pile would be out in front of me. And that's legal in new york, you know, to put dead, dead deer or whatever the hell you want to put out in front of you. But when it's, you know, I've been out. When we were doing the coyote contest it was uh geez, I think it was like 10 would have wouldn't chill factor like negative 20 out. The one night we were. We were out there hunting and even the heater froze up. We had the heater freeze up, the propane froze up and my son's like it's getting cold pop. I'm like yeah, let's, uh, we're gonna call it, let's go back.

Speaker 2: 21:28

So, uh it, you know it gets cold, man. I mean it's not insulated, it's just a wooden, basically a wooden plywood box. But uh, uh, I it's. It does stop the window, it helps you when you're when you're out there and it it gives you a little more affordability in time, you know.

Speaker 1: 21:49

I'll tell you, whenever I get a big piece of private property, the first thing I'm doing is getting myself one of those redneck uh blinds and putting it up. You know, and I, because I love hunting in the winter, I, I do. But it also just gets to a point where I want to just be comfortable. I don't want to have to kill myself trying to to get something, and you know, I, I just winter is that time where it's like I'll do it time and time. You know, every once in a while to battle the conditions.

Speaker 1: 22:17

But you know, especially if you're you're feeling run down or you're tired, or you know you're sick and you still want to get out there, I mean something like that too, and just and just, you know, or real quick, you don't want to lug all this gear with you and you know that makes the cold hunts even worse when you're sweating just trying to get out there and everything like that. So you know it is, it's definitely a good thing to have. But with Thanksgiving on, you know what's everyone looking to do for this Thanksgiving and Squatch what you guys got planned over there.

Speaker 2: 22:55

So usually my son and I will hit the mountain that we go to, which is about 45 minutes, almost an hour away. We'll sit there, usually find a ridge up there in the morning, hunt that in the morning and then, you know, come back home and have dinner with the family around 2 or 3 o'clock and I usually don't go out that evening. But, you know, just spend time with the family and enjoy the holiday. That's usually what we do. You know, nothing too crazy. It ain't like the years before. You know had you know a lot of relatives that hunted and everything. But a lot of those people are gone. So you know, we don't get.

Speaker 2: 23:36

We don't get to do those big hunts like we used to, but it used to be a big deal. You know everybody, oh, that will be over thanksgiving and then you know you have a big dinner afterwards and stuff. So but uh, you know, even if it's small, we keep the tradition alive. Go out and hang out out there in the outdoors and you know, if mr buck decides to cooperate, just makes the day that better. I, I got one that was a half racked eight pointer, probably about eight, ten years ago on thanksgiving and it was actually the last buck I ever shot off the family property, so it made it all that sweeter. That's awesome yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:12

Love it. How about you, Frank?

Speaker 3: 24:16

So I'll be bow hunting Thanksgiving morning before the family wakes up. So yeah, we usually go over to up to my brothers so I usually I won't be going out for night post, but definitely in the morning I'm hoping to get a buck on the ground. If not, my plans are I'm going to hunt basically Friday, saturday and Sunday and try to get a buck on the ground before muzzleloader starts, cause I'll be out Monday for muzzleloader in Jersey. So you know we'll, we'll see what happens, and so you know Thanksgiving's with the family half a day. Then I'm going to be hunting hard Cause I want to try to get my buck on the ground before the gun season opens.

Speaker 1: 25:03

So yeah, yeah, no, I definitely get that. I mean I'm going to have a such a busy thanksgiving this year we are I won't be hunting. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to hunt the last couple years on thanksgiving, which is a bummer because I always try to, even though, like I, I always try to get out in the morning, usually when I'm gonna be home. But uh, we're going to bianca's family down the shore that I gotta drive all the way back home. Friday to have thanksgiving with my. We're gonna do thanks, do Thanksgiving, on the Friday with my family. Saturday starts PA rifle. We were going to hunt PA rifle opener Saturday, but now we're just going to do it. Sunday I brought a new slug gun, so I'm hoping to get that sighted in on Saturday. And, yes, I finally pulled the trigger and bought my own.

Speaker 1: 25:58

I was looking for a waterfowl gun and Frank was great enough to he was going to let me borrow his muzzleloader. But I was at the store looking for a waterfowl gun because I really want to get my own specific gun for a waterfowl gun. Because I really want to get my own specific gun for a waterfowl. I use my, my turkey gun for for waterfowl. In it I've killed tons of now different waterfowl with it, but I'm still a little bit of disadvantage, and so that was the the most important thing. And then I was like you know what? What? What are some slug guns? You guys got there and you know they. Of course they had the Savage 220 and everything that I want.

Speaker 1: 26:44

But I was like I can't pull the trigger on a $700 gun without a scope and I'm only going to hunt with it really for six day and maybe a few times there here. I can't justify that when 95 of the hunting I do is bow hunting. Um, so I was like oh, no, no, what else you guys got? And he was like, well, you know, if you don't care about price, we have this. You know this, uh, mossberg 20 gauge, I think it was just under 500 and I was like that's perfect.

Speaker 1: 27:17

I was like I was like sold. I was like you got me right there, like that, that's the perfect. I, that's exactly the price range. I'm not looking to go anything crazy. I texted frank and frank said he had the, he had the same one and and that, uh, you know he loved it and and everything like that. So, um, hopefully should be going to pick it up at the store tomorrow after work. I didn't give them a call but, yeah, pretty, pretty excited for that. But I mean looking, looking forward for Thanksgiving, looking forward to eat. I mean just that's the only thing like looking forward to eating, eating so much that I don't feel good and eating leftovers for the next.

Speaker 3: 27:58

I don't know how long, like everything is going to be.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Thanksgiving food.

Speaker 1: 28:02

You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 28:05

I think it's such an underrated holiday it's hard to compete with, like the other big ones, and you look at all of them, you, you know, but I think this is the most, this is one of the most important for for family I.

Speaker 1: 28:21

I think um, it's a little different, because christmas it's a big family one too, but that's all about gifts and nowadays it's all about gifts and and everything like that, where there's no like those. And it is just one of those things where you get to sit down with the family and usually from all over, and have a big meal and you're literally just eating, having drinks and and eating pie, and you know, watching TV and knowing that literally in a few days later the Christmas mayhem is going to start and you got to, if you haven't already, you got to get to the gifts and Black Friday is going to be there. Then I think what? Cyber Monday is coming up and everything, all those deals that are that are coming out. I mean, cabela's has sent me like a thousand things, sick has sent me like a thousand things of all these, these deals and I was just like, oh my god, we're already back to this time of the year yeah, it's crazy happened quick too quick, too quick.

Speaker 1: 29:33

Yeah, any next thing, frank, oh go ahead squash.

Speaker 2: 29:37

I was gonna say next thing we'll be planning our spring turkey hunt yeah, yeah right, it's.

Speaker 1: 29:44

It's crazy how, how time is flying. It's absolutely just flying but um what anyone, anyone got any Thanksgiving traditions Besides the hunting, besides the hunting part, any food that you eat, anything like that?

Speaker 3: 30:04

Like any traditions for you guys? No, not that I know of.

Speaker 2: 30:07

No, it's not. No, as I say, we usually do, like a homemade apple pie or you know something like along those lines. Then, uh, you know the, the, the uh, the tradition is. I mean with us is always turkey. You know, um, gotta have the thanksgiving turkey and the stuffing and and all the fixings there and cranberry sauce. You know all the good stuff I love pretty, yeah, pretty traditional, you with that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's about it, though Nothing too crazy.

Speaker 1: 30:40

Two years ago. So where we're going down the shore, they actually do the boil. What the hell is it called when they boil the Seafood boil? No, they fry the turkeys.

Speaker 2: 30:54

Deep fry the turkeys.

Speaker 1: 30:55

Oh, deep fry the turkeys yeah, I will tell you, it was my first time having it a couple years ago, the juiciest turkey in the world that I've ever had, and I'm actually very excited, yeah, to go back down and have a deep fried turkey. I mean, it was delicious yep I've done it.

Speaker 3: 31:14

Yeah. Yeah, we used to do them too, me and my brother. But now my brother I call him bougie now, because now he's like oh, come over my house. He's like, but don't bring nothing, because I'm getting it catered he's like no more cooking for us. I was like all right, cool. Even we always go over for Christmas Eve too. Everything's catered now for the past couple of years, so all right, frank, does your brother hunt too he used to.

Speaker 3: 31:41

Actually he used to do everything with us. He used to deer hunt, he used to go pheasant grouse, everything with us. He just got out of it. He didn't really it wasn't his thing like he tried it. I guess he did it because like he felt like the rest of us were doing it. So yeah, but uh it wasn't his thing.

Speaker 3: 32:03

Everyone else in the family hunts pretty much, you know for the most part. You just see he just he never, you know, he just never wanted to do it. He like say he every now and then he'll get the itch on him to come out. He comes out for a couple hours and then he doesn't go out no more. He's like ah, he's like ah, I'm over it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Oh wait, that big wind comes. He's like oh wait, this is why I stopped.

Speaker 3: 32:31

Yeah, he's like nope. He tells me all the time. He's like man, you're crazy, You're going out there in this weather. I'll be home sitting on the couch in the heat.

Speaker 2: 32:41

I'm just plugging my laptop in.

Speaker 3: 32:43

Yeah, go for it, brother.

Speaker 2: 32:44

No worries.

Speaker 1: 32:45

I mean then, what does he think about your uncle? Then I mean, because he's still out there, you know, having a ball and everything like that he thinks he's even more crazy.

Speaker 3: 32:56

But you know, I grew up doing that with you know, with my uncle and my grandparents and all that. So I mean it's just it's awesome that he's still that he's 72 and he's still like he still wants to go, go, go go. He still wants to track the deer, he still wants to do everything. You know, it's like it's basically it's like I was a kid again. You know he's, he's still almost the same way. So and squatch loves him, my uncle, angelo he's a.

Speaker 2: 33:29

He's a crazy son of a gun man. Reminds me like an older version of me. Yeah, yeah, no, he's great man. I can't wait. We've got to get up there. I've got to get up there and hang out with you guys We'll have a freaking blast man, because I can tell just for a little bit. I've been around him with everything. It's funny. He's one of those old school guys I've been around. I grew up around people like that, so it brings back a lot of memories.

Speaker 3: 33:59

It's a lot of fun so, yeah, yeah, like I said he always, he left the invitation open to you. Thank you to you too, mike, as well.

Speaker 1: 34:06

He's you know, he's like come up you know we'll eat, we'll drink, we'll hunt, we'll do this, we'll do that. I am telling you that we are, we're gonna plan some, get some good times. Uh, you know, definitely, especially next year. You know we're gonna, we're gonna do it correct. We're gonna do some bow hunting there. And the guns like I said, the gun season I I really want to see what, just video that and you know it's a, it's a great story to tell too and, um, hopefully, a bunch of deer down and but, you know, that's something that I definitely want to do more of with, with everyone. And you know what I was talking. I'm actually was on the buck down uh podcast. Um, we recorded the other day, um, and that's something that, uh, he's thinking about, um, they're, they're in talks of doing is is a hunt like that out in PA at one of the big, you know, state places during bow season, and I was like, listen, you tell us the date. I was like, as long as you give us a notice, I mean we'll, we'll, we'll definitely be out there, do some camping out there. And I think that's the cool thing, I mean. You mean, you know, squash got to do that this year. You know, went to ohio and put up the tents, and you know, I think that's, I think that's missing part of you know, from the olden days, like how much deer cap, deer camp really meant to people, you know, and it's, it's really about just the memories and the bond and hanging out. And you know, right now it's, you know, yes, there's people that do it and everything like that. But I think, because of just where social media and I can connect with, you know, even squatches, you know, only a couple hours away, but even a squash was six, seven hours away, it's like you know, hey, you know we don't have to all meet up together because you know we could all call each other, we can all text each other, we can all FaceTime each other.

Speaker 1: 35:57

Where the deer camps have kind of just just gone away a little bit, and I think that's something that definitely needs to to make a comeback. I mean at least once a year. For you know, for us and everyone out there, if you get the chance to go to a deer camp at least once a year, definitely take the opportunity. I mean I would, I would like to do one where, listen, I would love the families to come to. Like you know, I think it.

Speaker 1: 36:21

I think it means even more when, when the families are there and when everyone's having a good time cooking, laughing the guys are, and even the girls. If they want to go out and hunt during the day, we go out and hunt during the day. Then we come home, sit by the fire, drink and, you know, eat um and just and just um, pig out with food and just tell stories and everything like that. Like that's, that big part of that is missing. Um, you know, and I, I hope, uh, we can definitely bring that back pretty, pretty hard in in the next, uh, next upcoming years yeah, I got, uh, I got some plans already starting for next year.

Speaker 2: 36:55

I got uh, johnny, nitro and uh dave heath and maybe brett, uh bowen gonna come out and uh do some new york hunting with us out here. Um, dave's got a great big outfitter tent, stuff like that and I told him I said you know our state land within 45 minutes of here. You know I gave them the open invitation even to hunt some of my private with me. You know it's, it's no big deal. Um, so maybe we can make something out of it. You know we'll, we'll get some guys together and have a big whoo out here. I already told frank. I said you know they, they want to meet yous and you know, come out, but they're they're anxious to get out. So, uh, I, I, it was.

Speaker 2: 37:35

You know, like you know when you talk to people and you you get a feel for somebody and it's like, well, I, I probably known johnny the longest, so added both of them. But you know they're just good people. It's like you know, we all kind of like met and got to know each other and stuff. And you know, when you got that kind of stuff going on, you're just happy to help people. I just hey, man, if you want to come out and hunt, you come out and hunt. You know it's the invitations here. You know we'll cook. I can throw a tent up here in my backyard. It's big enough, you know, and you know we'll go from there. I don't care, you know, just make it a big, big fun thing. So we're going to put some dates together, figure something out, hopefully for the future, for some kind of deer camp for next year. It'd be awesome.

Speaker 1: 38:21

Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. Bianca might kill me all the time I'm spending in deer camp, but she likes coming usually, like when we went to bear camp she came and everything like that you know. So she, when we go to, when I go to, when I go to um camp for six day, she's coming like she looks forward to all those things and everything like that. You know, even if she's not hunting, she just likes being there, she likes you know the cooking, she likes hanging out by the fire and just relaxing, just getting away from everything you know, you know of, just really like how life really should be. You know and that's the that's the most, at least in my eyes like that's just how the world should be and life should be and how us as humans should really be living. But you know I'm also not a city person and none of us are really city people.

Speaker 1: 39:16

So you know it's, it's easy for us to say that, yeah, yeah, but, um, well, guys, I mean, I I think that's gonna call it for for this week. I mean, you know it is, it is thanksgiving. You know everyone out there hunting, just enjoy, stay safe. Um, you know, we're we're looking forward to talking to everyone again and hearing stories. We're getting closer to christmas and and things like that, and unfortunately getting close to the end of the season, um, you know, but with that I mean a lot of great things are are about, like I said, we will be at the Empire State Show on February 28th to March 2nd. If anyone's in the area, come out. We will be talking about that constantly and we'll keep bringing it up.

Speaker 1: 40:13

The game dinner, we're, you know. You know, like I said, it's looking to be the first week of april, um, and then, of course, we're eventually going to be doing our bow shoot and and meet and greet at some point too in the summer, um, so, and then you know, of course, uh, the traditional, um, great american outdoor show will be there for for a couple days and everything like that. So if anyone really, you know, if you want to get together, meet, anything like that, we're all very open to that. I mean, that's how you know we met squash. I mean, I met squash for the first time after talking on instagram and everything like that at one of our events. Um, you know, I've met frank for the first time, I think at at um, at the great american outdoor show, I believe last.

Speaker 3: 40:59

No, actually I met you before, actually any of that before. Yeah, it was when my taxidermist. They threw that whole um, what the hell was it?

Speaker 1: 41:11

they threw like that oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you're right at that event. Yes, at that, uh, at that event. Yes, yes, you're right. Yes, I met you, the wife and the kids at, uh, yes, at that event in sussex. Yeah, yeah, um, so I mean, a lot of us have, all you know, we've all introduced ourselves from Instagram and everything like that, and then have eventually come across one of each other in're not a poacher and a, you know, a, a scumbag or something like that. Listen, I, I will never judge you and you. We're all part of the same community and you know, we just, we just all have to to be there for each other, honestly, um, you know, and that that's the most important thing. But, um, guys, I know I'm going to talk to you, but happy thanksgiving to you guys, happy thanksgiving to everyone out there. Um, you know, and I hope everyone enjoyed this episode and we'll see you guys next time happy thanksgiving everybody thanks for doing everybody.