Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 1: 0:42

That's why your tagline by JCL. Don't know what that mountain is doing, don't know what that afternoon is doing. I accidentally drifted my canoe between a sow and a cub and she like, charged and hit like the back of the canoe and hit his head hit the ground before his ass hit begging and crying to go with my grandfather, go with my father on these deer drives.

Speaker 3: 1:09

You know, the last trip over I shot a great Cape Buffalo with my bow Charging bluegrass, and then the whooping.

Speaker 1: 1:16

And then you hear a body drop Boys. It's been a. It feels like it's been forever since we've been together. I mean, I think we've now two weeks off from not talking and having a Field Notes update and that's the longest we've gone without sitting down and talking on the camera and about since season started. Basically, how's everyone doing?

Speaker 2: 1:40

Doing good man.

Speaker 1: 1:41

Doing good. Well, we have a lot to talk about. It is our christmas episode. Half of you know it's. It's been a great year. Things keep going.

Speaker 1: 1:54

You look at frank, you still got the uh, still got the deer all christmas out and everything like that. I had to throw the santa hat on and it's crazy how quickly christmas has snuck up to us, because I can't every. You know, I usually buy, you know, lights and everything like that and I'll, I'll put it around here and I kept saying, oh, like I got time, I got time, I got time. And then, literally last week we're out for bianca's sister's birthday and they're like, yeah, christmas is next week. And I'm like, and I'm literally at the table. I started ordering all the gifts at the table, like I'm on amazon, like trying to get a christmas gift list together for, like to send to, like my family and everything like that order people's gifts. And I'm like, where has the time gone? It's here, where everyone listening, it's, it's, it's one day out, so, merry christmas, everyone uh, listening, uh, it's that great time of the year. I mean, I love. I love christmas, I love the holidays.

Speaker 1: 2:54

Um, we've said a bunch of times in this podcast, I think from from when hunting season starts, it is the best time of the year. You have hunting, you have football starting up, you have hockey starting up, people who are basketball fans, you have basketball starting up, and then we have halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, new year's, and the only downside is that that means season's almost over and then and that's about it. So, boys, any, any, uh any updates? I know we. I know we have some updates. Let's get to the updates before we get to the christmas talk. Who?

Speaker 2: 3:33

wants to go yeah, who wants to go first?

Speaker 5: 3:36

I'm I'm gonna kill a buck eventually, but eventually. Up until that happens, I'm just going to keep shooting. Does?

Speaker 1: 3:48

nothing wrong with that man that's doe number six correct? I think seven okay.

Speaker 5: 3:55

So let me see, yeah, because I've shot the mule deer in Colorado with the muzzleloader, five with the bow here and then one more with the muzzleloader here no bucks, but got all the does, it's all good honestly, man, besides the first two does, besides the mule deer in colorado and then my first two does here in jersey with the bow, every deer.

Speaker 5: 4:21

since then I didn't want to shoot, but then they started to get spooky and I'm like either I can wait here and get busted and go home with no meat or I can just shoot this deer and bring home some meat. It just keeps happening the same way.

Speaker 1: 4:39

I mean, I think that's a. That's a pretty good thing to have, though I think a lot of people listening is like man. I would love to have that problem.

Speaker 5: 4:48

I'm not complaining, trust me, but it's still working. I have some things brewing. I wouldn't be surprised if I can fill a tag late season, but we'll see.

Speaker 2: 4:56

Yeah, still plenty of time, man.

Speaker 1: 5:00

Yeah, that's the good thing about Jersey here we still have plenty of plenty of time to to get it done. Um, you know we go until majority of what at least half of the zones, maybe even more, go to at least second week of february. Um, if not, you go till, I think, january 31st, um, if you're in a zone that doesn't go to that mid February mark. So plenty of time to to still get it done. Um, a buck down, and I know how you hunt and I know you know we've talked and everything like that. Um, you know, and, yeah, I, I know no doubt you're, it's going to come at some point, you know, before the season's done.

Speaker 1: 5:40

You're definitely have. I'll say definitely you'll. You'll get on a a a nice buck. You'll definitely have. I'll say definitely you'll get on a nice buck. You'll definitely have that opportunity. I for sure think you'll have that opportunity. I know it's evaded you so far, but you know it's a nice shooting dose and I think you wrote in a group or wrote to me personal. Every deer with the archery equipment has been with a different broadhead, which is very unique because you don't see too many people. Um, everyone's very like you. Stick with what you know, especially in archery, and you've got it done with every single um different broadhead that you have. So kind of speak on that and like kind of walk us through a little bit of those, those results of you know, using the different broadheads.

Speaker 5: 6:23

So when it comes to the muzzleloader side of things because both deer that I shot with the muzzleloader were with different bolts as well um, honestly, both those, both those loads, did the exact same thing. The deer just crumbled. So there really wasn't too much more to say on that. Um, I was using the uh hornady board drivers and then the federal uh power locks. Both were fantastic. When it comes to the more interesting archery side of things, um, of the five deer that I've shot so far this year, first day that I hunted in jersey, I shot two with the sever 15 um, which you and I actually spoke about. Like I actually had very poor results. Um, with the sever one five, which I'll talk about in a minute.

Speaker 5: 7:11

Uh, from there I shot a doe with the, the grim reaper, uh one and three ace mechanical. Then I shot a doe with the Iron Will Single Bevel 125. And then this last one I shot with a 2AD Exodus. So excuse me, I just got back from the gym the Severo 155, the first doe that I shot with it. It performed as to be expected Just blew through the shoulder, cut the heart in half, logs in the off-side shoulder, ran 60 and died. The second doe that I shot, which was only a few minutes later. To this day I don't understand what happened. The exit hole on that deer was it almost looked like the blade had completely closed, which I know is impossible for those heads, and even though that was a well-placed shot, I had to come back the next day to find her. Um, so that was very underwhelming. The grim reaper first time ever shoot first and only time ever shooting a deer with grim reaper uh, worked phenomenal, perfect, double long at 13 yards, ran 10 yards and died.

Speaker 5: 8:24

Iron Will, similar to the sever. I was very surprised. I was not happy with the results. That was 22 yards, pretty hard quarter. Two Punched through the front shoulder, right through the scap, double long, right behind the offside shoulder, logged eight inches in the ground. On the other side she ran 100 yards, which I was fine with that. But there was next to no blood at all, like to the point where we actually I knew she was dead because I heard her crash. I stopped trying to find the blood because there was none and I just started gritting and I found her 50 yards ahead of where I had lost blood.

Speaker 5: 9:05

And then the highlight of the season in my opinion when it comes to broadheads, the qad. So I actually shot that deer twice. The first shot was with an iron will and I had to do some crazy matrix stuff out of my saddle to get the first shot off at like 15 yards. I pulled the shot off forward, hit her in the brisket. She ran 33 yards, turns around, faces me and uh, I put a qad frontal at 33 yards, right alongside her neck, in between both shoulders, and it pretty much went all the way through her and I have never seen carnage like that. I've never seen a blood trail like that. That was by far the highlight of all the broadheads that I shot this year is the qad exodus. So I wouldn't be surprised if I start shying away from the iron wills just because of that the issue with, uh, the blood, like the lack of blood and start going more towards that three blade qad and it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 1: 10:07

You know, you hear so much of the positivity to especially those two. You look at iron will and you look at sever and you kind of you know, when everyone, a lot of people, talk, fix, you're talking, you're naming iron will and I think sever has gotten to that that element, especially with lust, um archer view. I mean he has those things pegged as the you know best mechanical and everything like that. Um, and you know with me and you know frank, I mean look at how much we use sever and you know I've been using sever for years now and the success that we have. I mean I've never used the 1.5 um. You know I don't know if frank you have.

Speaker 1: 10:47

I know I used the 2.0 for the before the, obviously the hybrid came out this year. You know we've had nothing but great with the 2.0s and the, the hybrid. But I know, ethan, you've used the. This is not your first year using the, the 1.5s, but like, what I'm trying to say is these two top, you know brands or whatever you want to call both had malfunction. I know I've definitely heard of um iron will having a very poor blood trail. I believe don't quote me um, but I think, um, oh my god, ch Chris from only bows, I think he had an issue or something like that when he went to uh to Africa. Um, so you know it's. It's just one of those things, like it's unfortunate things happen, um, and this is why I like to tell people, whether using fixed or you're using mechanical, there is always a positive and there's always a a negative to both using both.

Speaker 5: 11:48

But, um, yeah, I've heard great things about uh grim reaper as well you know when I uh had my whole endeavor in colorado this year with my bull yeah, I'm a big believer in every everything you do, whether it's success or failure. Like you learn from it and I'll never forget tracking that bull for mile after mile after mile and eventually not finding him, but just wishing that I had more blood, like constantly, every step of the way, wishing that there was more, wishing that I wasn't just looking at pin bricks of blood and uh, I really I took that with me and generally in the past, all the deer that I've shot with iron wheels I've I've seen them die. So there was no tracking. Um, I did notice, with all the deer that I've shot with them, that there was a lack of a blood trail, but I didn't care because they were dead in 40 yards.

Speaker 5: 12:44

This one definitely opened my eyes a bit, because I always bring all my stuff back to out west and I think, man, if I were taking a 60 yard poke on a bull elk with one of these and now I'm up at 11 000 feet and I'm five miles from the truck, now I have to try and find this bull with no blood or very little blood. That was a big turn off to me when I actually had to resort to gritting, even though I knew the deer was dead when it got to the point there was no blood. So I I wouldn't be surprised if I actually don't utilize iron wills anymore. Just structurally I think they're the best head out there, but if they're not giving you blood on the ground, man, it doesn't really matter what they're doing inside.

Speaker 5: 13:27

If you can't find that animal. It's a big piece of it.

Speaker 1: 13:31

Yeah, no, I mean, I would, I would agree with with that. And you know it's funny, we all you know a bunch of us, we that's what, that's what we wanted to use this year too was Aaron Will and everything like that. So, um, you know, it's just a very interesting thing to see. But that's the cool thing about shooting so many broads, broadheads a year, where I think I always say I want to use multiple, but I can never get off of of sever.

Speaker 1: 13:57

But, um, as you get to see all the positives, all the negative, you get to really you're testing out every single broadhead in your you know, in your quiver and it's um, you know, you get to get back and be like, hey, this is what worked for me, this was what not. You know, you get to break down on what it was like tracking those deer, what was the you know destruction or whatever maximum blood loss and and everything and the cut diameter. Like you really get to go to the scientific grittiness which I think a lot of us like in archery, um, and we, we love that aspect of it, but it's such a hard thing to do because usually a lot of people only shoot one and that's really about it, yeah yeah, I will say I mentioned to the wife a couple times already that as a stocking stuffer I was interested in trying those sever hybrids.

Speaker 5: 14:55

So if I am able to, you know, put one more down this year, I wouldn't be surprised if it's with another broad, different broadhead. Um look, I've always liked sever. My whole thing with sever is I I just don't like the bands. That's the one thing I don't like about that design. But I'll. I'm the first one to say like structurally, there's no mechanical that competes, like at all. I just hate bands.

Speaker 1: 15:19

So what is it about the bands that you don't like?

Speaker 5: 15:21

I'm curious honestly, the biggest thing. I have no issues with them in terms of, uh, fear of opening up on game or anything like that. I've never had an issue with that. I just hate putting them in my quiver because I've actually had times where, like I'll have a blade deploy when I'm putting it in my quiver in the dark without realizing it and now, unless I have the little tool that that head is shot. I've actually had that and that's one thing that I just can't stand about. The design.

Speaker 1: 15:52

So I haven't had that issue with the 2.0, but I've had that issue with the hybrid. But I don't know if Frank can, I actually can get it undone with my fingers. Franken, I actually can get it undone with my fingers. Um, I don't know if they purposely meant that for the, the hybrid to be able to kind of undo it a little easier um than the 2.0 or 1.5. But I've also there's only been one times where I've actually broken the band and it's actually open and I actually dropped the whole entire broad, the whole entire arrow out of the tree. You know, everything bursted open at that at that point. But, um, I've noticed putting it like putting an arrow back in or something like that has been a little more um difficult and I have definitely opened, or came close to opening up, some, some broadheads with the hybrid.

Speaker 1: 16:48

But, like I said, I've been actually able to pinch them together and be able to move, to move it back in um, and I don't know if that's something that sever purposely did, um, because it you did need the tool every other time um trying to do that and that's always been a pain in the butt, um, so, yeah, I mean, brother, keep on, keep on going. And you know, like I said, you're, your time's coming, you're gonna, you're gonna get one. Um, we're pretty confident in you. You know your, your shooting percentage right now is pretty damn high too, too as well. So you got to, you got to love that. Just keep on going. And you know, you and you and Frank together have just absolutely just I think you guys both combined have shot more deer than the rest of the team put together, and we're, and you got an elk too.

Speaker 5: 17:40

So you know, you guys are half an elk. I can't give myself all that. I didn't find them. Yeah, someone else found them, I still got it.

Speaker 1: 17:54

You got half an elk, um, you know, but listen, it's. It's been a great, great time for for you, and you know well, we might as well segue into the other guy who's still continuing to to get it done and I mean, is this a donut, is this another buck, or is it a doe and a buck? Since we last talked, I can't I can't.

Speaker 2: 18:16

No, it's, it's just a buck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, you know it was basically same old story. You know the cameras were going off and I was getting ready for a six-day firearm and went out the first two days and it was, I mean, slow, the weather sucked. So, fortunately for me, you know, I can only go like the first two days. So I was like, all right, well, I'm not going to be able to get out until Saturday. Well, I just continue to watch the cameras on this one um piece of property that I've been private property, I've been hunting, I've been doing really great at this year, thank god for that and uh, yeah, so I went in and you know I put up a ladder stand for gun season in there because I really didn't want to mess with the saddle too much, you know, with with the gun going in there. So, um, just watch the cameras.

Speaker 2: 19:10

And I was getting some pretty decent bucks that were coming in either early in the morning or like just that dark, and all of a sudden, this, this 10 pointer that never seen him before. He's really high, got short times though he shows up and I really thought I was going to see that there because he was showing up morning afternoon. I was like all right, so I went in there and over there, you know we've been baiting them. So, oh, I think I have my buddy come in with me, my buddy Jay. We threw some more bait out bait at his spot and once you know, the weather turns and it's freaking cold as shit out there. It's like 15 degrees. The temperature drops now, which I didn't mind. But you know, saturday comes over. I was like alright, I'm going to go out first thing.

Speaker 2: 20:10

And actually the buck I shot let me back up for a second the buck I shot showed up the night before I shot him. He was there like I think around like 4.35 that night. I was like alright, so I was looking forward to the morning hunt. I was all pumped, got up early, drove to my buddy jay's house. I'm like all right, let's go. He was like he was already dressed. But he's like dude, he's like it's so freaking cold, like I'm not going. I'm like wait, it's the last day, like let's go. He was like nope, he's like listen, like you go out and you get one. Like good for you, brother, I'm not gone. I was like all right, so so I get in the tree, stand about, like I think it was around like quarter quarter after five.

Speaker 2: 20:54

I think I was up, I was in there and I was actually warm, had no problems with that and uh, I was sitting there for, uh, waiting for first first light. First light comes, here comes a doe and a spike, you know, right on the bait pile, going back and forth, back and forth. I'm watching them. I'm like alright, I'm not seeing too much else, just those two. So the spike leaves and the doe stayed there, so she stays. I'm watching her and all of a sudden I can hear I think it was around like 7, it was like close to 7, 30 I think and I hear walking coming from behind me. So I really didn't want to move too much because I'm kind of out in the open. So I just kind of turned my head and I see that buck I had on the camera the night before and I thought he was a. I thought he was a big eight. He ends up being a nine.

Speaker 2: 21:51

When I actually went back and actually checked the cameras and everything after I shot him and uh, I could see him. He's standing 20 yards behind me just staring at her and I got my gun in my hand, but I'm facing the other way and so I was like, all right, frank, whatever you do, don't freaking move. So he takes. I think I was telling Squatch or it might have been you too, mike he would take two or three steps and stop. And it seemed like he would stop for like five freaking minutes, take two or three steps and stop. And it seemed like he would stop for like five fricking minutes, take two or three steps and stop. And he was looking, he was just staring at her and I knew if I didn't move I was going to get a shot at them.

Speaker 2: 22:35

So I was like, all right, like you got the gun, like don't rush it. He walked. I had to basically let him walk past me. He was only like 13 yards and I did not want to move to shoot him. So I basically let him pass me all the way. He gets on the bait as soon as he drops his head. Since the gun was already in my hand, I just pick it up. I put it right on his heart and you know the rest is history.

Speaker 2: 23:06

I pulled the trigger, he fricking, and he does the high mule kick and I knew I hit him hard and he run. He actually runs about like uh he's. He ran probably about like 20 yards and he was going to fall. I believe he was probably going to fall, but I think in my head I got antsy and I shot him again and I mean that shot really put him down, you know. But uh, you know, I think it was just like I was all hyped up and everything. But uh, yeah, I took end of taking two shots but he dropped within 30 yards and uh, yeah, man, it was, it was a wrap, it was a beautiful nine pointer. I call him and actually when I was in the tree stand, as soon as I took the second shot, my phone goes off. My buddy jay goes. He's sitting in his kitchen with his cup of coffee. Like, tell me that wasn't fucking you and I'm like.

Speaker 2: 23:59

And I'm like, no, it was me. He's like he literally pecked me. Like what did you shoot? And I'm like at first I didn't know it was a nine. I was like, I was like I shot the big eight. And he starts blowing up my phone. I knew it, I knew I should have went out, son of a bitch. You know I was already dressed, you know like. And I was like, yeah, well, since we're on the phone, like do you mind bringing the quad up? I was like I've seen him fall. And he was like, yeah, do you mind bringing the quad up? I was like I seen him fall and he was like, yeah, yeah, no, I'll bring the quad up. So we came up and took our pictures and everything and he was a beautiful deer man. He ended up being a nine, so he's actually I dropped them off the other day. He's at the taxidermist. I'm going to get them mounted. So, yeah, man it. It was, uh, I think it was by sherlock man. I mean, that property is.

Speaker 1: 24:47

It's insane, it really is that's two bucks in jersey, two bucks in new york. Yep, four bucks in total. Yep, um, and two does, two does. Yeah, geez, and you still.

Speaker 2: 25:03

We still got some time left yeah, and I'm still getting, I mean, some beautiful bucks on camera that I want to try to. Hopefully I can get out um sometime this week, coming with the muzzleloader after the holidays and stuff, and you never know, I might get another one down mike when's muzzleloading shotgun in so, um, now I think they they just went through the dough days like the permit shotgun.

Speaker 2: 25:31

So now that ended, but muzzleloader goes, actually muzzleloader goes all the way into january. I think it's like this. I think it's like the second week of january it ends, but then, like then, after that, the permit shotgun picks back up that's just so confusing.

Speaker 1: 25:50

That's the one that's like this doesn't why. Why stop start, stop start. It just confuses the hell out of people.

Speaker 2: 25:59

I mean, I see that you know they probably do, because, like that's how they get more money, right? Oh, you want to go out, of course, now you can use a shotgun. You know they probably do because, like that's how they get more money, right? Oh, you want to go out, of course. Oh, now you can use a shotgun. You know, like I don't know. It's, it's crazy bro exactly.

Speaker 1: 26:16

And then, brother squash, I mean I think it the luck of the magic of me being on the white tail advantage podcast the very next day. I mean you smoke a. You smoke a dough. I mean you had a busy. You had yourself a very busy day. Um, you know, and you're able to you know, why don't you let everyone know your, your story of your, uh, successful hunt?

Speaker 3: 26:39

yeah, so, uh, it was monday morning at 2 am. I got called in. I worked for a highway department for years and you know we're on snow patrol. So when we get a storm I'm up out. Well, hours of the night was out plowing and I got home and I was driving home a couple orchard lots that are on the way back to the house. I see deer feeding on the way home. I'm like, oh boy, look at them all, they're up here, look at them here, they're here. So you know I'm like, okay, well, it's good to see the population still there. And you know I had been out a couple days before that.

Speaker 3: 27:15

But I kicked two up when I walked into my stand. I probably could have shot through the brush at one, but I didn't want to take a risky shot, so I was like, ah man, you know I got the eight pointer with the bow, I really need another deer, I'd like to get one with the muzzleloader. So where I live it's a big, huge orchard out behind me, apples, and uh, I got a nice wooded lot right next to the house and a big backyard. I let my four beagles out and I looked down in the woods and there's deer running around down in there and like chasing each other and I'm like, is there a buck down there? I don't see any horns, they're just running around playing in the snow. So I'm like, I'm like I don't know. I said, well, I'm not going to shoot him right here by the house, let me take a walk out into the orchard. So I ran down, grabbed a muzzleloader out of the truck and I threw the primer cap in and my backyard's about probably 100 yards long.

Speaker 3: 28:17

So I walk out, I get out into the main orchard there and I'm standing in the first row and I can see the woodlot because the snow has got everything lit up so good. You can see them moving around down there and I see them trotting out towards the orchard. I said, well, I better get ready. So I leaned against an old trusty apple tree and the first doe come bounding out from the woodlot. Actually, I have a stand right there. She ran right out in front of my stand and I whistled and she was already into the main part of the orchard and she didn't stop. But I looked out and I seen another one come out and I whistled again and that one stopped and I looked her over real quick and I said, yeah, that's one of those huge doe that are around here, I take the shot. So I just touched it off and muzzle loaders, it's so much smoke and I thought you know. I said, well, it looked like a good hit. I said, okay, the dogs are out, let me run back to the house, get them inside before I go bringing a bloody old deer back through the yard. And uh, I'll go back out, look for her.

Speaker 3: 29:24

So I went back to house, got the dogs in, I grabbed a hold of the stuff, I went back out, I walked down and I see the first set of tracks coming out of the thicket and I'm like, okay, there's no blood. What the heck? Then I walked down a little further. I'm like, okay, there's another set of tracks, no blood. What did I do? I said don't tell me, I missed. I had a good rest and everything.

Speaker 3: 29:45

But what ran through the back of my mind is um, yeah, you didn't shoot the muzzleloader from last year, so maybe it's off. So I start panicking a little bit. I walk down and there's another set of tracks just beyond that last set and there's blood everywhere. And I went oh, okay, I think I got her, good, there's a lot. And I went oh okay, I think I got her, good, there's a lot of blood. So I started walking up over the hill. I went about 45 yards and, boy, she was spewing blood everywhere. And I got to tell you I'm using Traditions Shockwave Bullet that's 250 green with I shoot loose powder, loose 777 powder, and I measure it out to 90 grains and I'll tell you what, when that muzzleloader goes off, it's like 150 grains with that loose powder. I don't know if it's got a better reaction than the pre-formed pellets, but that sucker thumps and I walked over. I mean the amount of blood. I'm sure you guys sure saw the short I posted. Oh yeah, but there oh yeah, there was blood everywhere.

Speaker 3: 30:49

Look like you were walking around with a paint can. And I got over to her and I saw the size of her and I was like holy cow, man, it's another one of them, monster swamp donkeys from out here in the swamps of the origins. And, uh, their swamp donkeys from out here in the swamps of the orchards. And, uh, I was just very grateful. I worked hard all day and I was able to get my my second deer that I needed. And, uh, what's great about right now? Season is closed. It was that tuesday, it closed after that monday. So, um, now we have a little break and then the 26th muzzleloader bow and, I believe, crossbow open up and it goes from the 26th to the 1st of January and, um, if they call it like the holiday hunt, so you're allowed to go out and, like New York State is, you can, if you have any tags left, you can, can use any tag that you want. Um, so I'm off, I'm off, uh, you know, till the to the new year's.

Speaker 3: 31:48

Uh, I, I'm hoping to go back out and maybe shoot a, either a good buck or a a doe. My cameras have been crap lately. I haven't seen any bucks. I've seen doe and uh a little concerned, but I don't know, sometimes they just lay down for a while, they don't move too much. But I'm hoping that I get out this this, uh, after the holiday here with everybody. And uh, I got a good friend of mine too that wants to go out. He's, he's behind, you know, getting things done this year. But uh, I told him, I said, hey, you got a couple days, I'll be home, so if you want to go with me, come on out so he might tag along with me too. We'll see if we can't get him a deer, but I'm just hoping for some more. I'd like to have at least three, sometimes four, in the freezer, if I can, and this way I got enough meat because I like to make jerky.

Speaker 1: 32:50

I like to make jerky, I like to make bratwurst, I like to do all kinds of stuff with the meat and and, uh, nothing like having fresh venison. So that's for sure, for sure. Um, yeah, no. And and then you know, like we've talked about before, then you know, the predator season starts here. Um, same with us too. I'm pretty excited for that. Now it's a colder days. I've had a bunch of coyotes start to pop up on camera and everything like that. So I'm I'm looking forward to getting out there. But myself I'm trying to get at least one more doe and hopefully one more buck down with the bow. Um, you know, and that would be a perfect scenario. Get one more dough, one more buck. Perfect scenario. Good, a good, happy scenario. Get one more buck and a. You know I'll take that, cause I need the meat is just a dough. So, whichever, whichever comes, I'll be pretty happy. It's been a successful season for all of us here.

Speaker 1: 33:42

So you know, and it's uh, you know it's been a good time, but I mean, I think that's the uh for the, the update on on everyone. Now, let's, let's get into some christmas talk. Um, it's that time of the year, it's literally here. First of all, frank, stand up, let's, let's. Let's see the ugly sweater all right there you go, go boy.

Speaker 2: 34:04

You slay that freaking jaws. My favorite, one of my favorite movies jaws is a classic.

Speaker 1: 34:12

It is one of my favorites as well. Um, and then you know, we look at ethan here and this, this guy didn't have a uh, so he's rocking the classic blue, right blue, yep, dark blue yeah and then you know, the squash has got his, uh, his, just a classic shirt. On what? What's it? What's what's the shirt? Say caterpillar. There you go, caterpillar there we go.

Speaker 1: 34:37

That's one of the machines that I I run and then for everyone who did it, you know american mike's party. I mean, I rock this thing and this thing's pretty dope and this, this is the best part take my can when I'm having a drink.

Speaker 1: 34:52

Let's put it right here there you go this thing everywhere now, at least for christmas. Because, being hands-free, I was able to have a drink. I was drinking, me and Bianca were playing pool, so I was able to shoot pool. When I went to my turn to have a drink, put it back in. I was able to dab people up in it. I was able to eat. It was great being hands-free and also having an open drink right on your stomach area, so that was pretty cool. It's a big fact of why I love this shirt. But I'm also having not a big eggnog fan, like I drink it this time of the year, but that's the drink that I've been drinking. Eggnog and Captain Morgan was my drink of choice tonight. So on that, any of you guys, big eggnog fans, what? What's a little bit of your your christmas festivity routine that the each of you guys so I, uh, I don't drink alcohol, just a personal thing.

Speaker 5: 35:55

But I'm a big eggnog dude and this is the first holiday season living, you know, with the wife, so we're making all these uh traditions as we go. And, dog, she made some homemade eggnog the other day. I fell in love all over again. It was wildly good, so good. So that's definitely going to be a tradition on our end over there.

Speaker 3: 36:20

That's pretty good, how about you spot?

Speaker 3: 36:21

yeah well, uh, yesterday I spent most of the day being italian heritage. Uh, my, my grandfather and my grandmother always made what they call tufali, and that is an italian wine cookie, and it's made with red wine. You can use any red wine you want. Some people use more salad, some use a moscato. I just use a good with red wine. You can use any red wine you want. Some people use more salad, some use a moscato.

Speaker 3: 36:44

I just use a good dry red wine that I usually drink and uh, it's flour oil, red wine, a little bit of salt, some baking soda, and uh, you mix it all up in a mixer, you make a dough, you roll it out, you cut them in little pieces and uh, fry them in oil and you take them out and you drizzle warm honey over them.

Speaker 3: 37:07

You can put sprinkles on them and and then you make what the italians call struffola, and a struffola is like a round, white, blondish kind of, uh a doughy ball with honey on it also and sprinkles, and you eat the wine crawlers with the stroofly and uh, you know that's an old italian tradition that we do also. I won't do it this year because we're going to my mom's for, uh, christmas eve, but usually I try to do the dish of the seven fishes, um, you know, and make that, and I'd usually do that on a Christmas Eve, drink lots of wine and just do my thing. It is what it is. I can't believe it's here already. We're staring it down the barrel of the Christmas sleigh, sitting outside ready to rock and roll here I can't believe it too.

Speaker 1: 38:05

It's crazy For us, mean, our biggest thing is really kind of like ethan bianca and I are coming out with our their own traditions, and so one of them is we go to new york city every single christmas. We go see the tree, we go to our favorite bar and everything like that. Well, because it was so cold yesterday, we actually canceled that. So we moved it back because, honestly, it was, I think, nine or eight degrees and, being in New York City in those wind tunnels, I mean I went to work before we decided to push it back. I got my put my sick layers on. I literally, whenever it's super cold, and you know I'm cold, I'm putting my sick layers on. So I had my base layers, everything like that. And then I started packing on clothes, like I went to work prepared because we were literally going to go from work. I was going to drive. Here we're going to jump on the train and just head down Like I was fully prepared. Here we're going to jump on the train and just head down Like I was fully prepared. I was in my hunting mode, you know, but for her I didn't. You know, I have way more, I think, winter stuff for hunt, just for hunting, not even for myself to wear outside, but just for hunting. So I'm a little more prepared in that sense. But, like she was, probably she was going to be miserable. I probably was going to still be miserable to like walk around in New York city. You know why don't we just do it on a day that it's going to be a little warmer? We still want that nice cold weather, but just not probably one or two degrees with the wind chill or maybe even gosh forbid negative. Like who wouldn't want that? That would ruin the the fun. So that's kind of like me and Bianca's.

Speaker 1: 39:43

And then I don't know, like christmas eve is like we just celebrate everything. Christmas eve, like christmas day to me, yeah, like we just kind of relax more, like I'm actually working this christmas. Um, I kind of work almost every christmas, uh, because we do so much on christmas eve and I then will go spend the time with, uh, bianca's family and everything like that. But Christmas Eve to me and my family and you know, has been the thing where we go all out, kind of Christmas Eve with dinner, the present, majority of the presents. Now that we're older and Bianca and I don't have kids yet we'll. We just open all the presents, but you know, when we were younger we'd open some of them and then the rest on christmas and everything like that. So that's kind of really about it. You know, um still learning and trying to create our own traditions as well, of course, big movies. So that's going to be in the next. What are your top five christmas movies that each view and who is die hard? A true Christmas movie.

Speaker 5: 40:40

Yes, absolutely what your top five movies are. First thing I was going to say was Die Hard.

Speaker 2: 40:46

Yep. Bianca has yet to see.

Speaker 1: 40:48

Die Hard yet. So that is a movie we are going to be watching, hopefully tomorrow.

Speaker 2: 40:56

There you go.

Speaker 1: 40:57

So I mean I'll have this. I'll start this off. I'm a huge movie guy. I mean there's so many great Christmas movies and it's there's going to be some great ones left off. But for me personally, I am a huge fan of and this is in no particular order because I can't even list them in the top five but national lampoon's christmas vacation. That is obviously one of my favorites.

Speaker 1: 41:26

Um, santa, the original santa claus. Um, I may even put santa. I don't want to put santa claus 2 in there, but I love santa claus 2 as well. As, especially as a kid. That's like one of the movies I'd watch a hundred times over. Um, I know you, someone in here is going to say christmas story, so I'm not going to say christmas story. I'm going to put four christmases with vince vaughn. One of you guys are going to put die hard, so I'm not going to put die hard either. Man, I don't, I don't really know. Huge, huge. Um fred claus, big, big. Into fred claus. Um, I'm trying to think like, oh, I watched him for the first time in a very long time and this is a classic and I can't believe I forgot about it. Jingle all the way with arnold schwarzenegger.

Speaker 1: 42:21

I remember watching it as a kid and I haven't watched it since and I found it on Disney and I watched it with the kids and I forgot how much of a good movie that was. It brought back so many child memories. That movie is an absolute classic in my opinion. Was that four or five?

Speaker 2: 42:43

I lost count.

Speaker 1: 42:44

I think it was five, and then I'm going to throw one more because it's the old, I think, rudolph movie and all of us. I don't know if Ethan would remember that, but it's kind of. It's not like animated, it's kind of like oh man, it's clay animated, it's a like animated.

Speaker 3: 43:04

it's kind of like oh man, it's clay animated, it's a clay animated one.

Speaker 1: 43:07

I remember watching that constantly and I loved that movie as a little kid and I still think today like that is such a great classic music movie of mine. But who's next what we got in your guys top five?

Speaker 2: 43:26

who wants to go?

Speaker 5: 43:27

I, uh, I honestly I don't think I even have a top five. I'm not a big movie guy. I'm not like a big christmas movie guy. But what I will say is, from the year I was born to I don't know, until I was probably like 16, 17, 18. Me and my mom would watch the original Rudolph movie every year around Christmas Eve. And then there were a couple of years in there where I didn't, because I got older and life got in the way. And now it's one of those things Every time Christmas comes around, I start thinking about that movie and I end up watching it on YouTube or whatever. So, honestly, if I had one, it would definitely be that movie, just because end up watching, watching on youtube or whatever. So, uh, honestly, if I had one, it would, it would definitely be that movie, just because of the nostalgic factor there you go, no, so I guess I'll go next.

Speaker 2: 44:14

So obviously for me you know I'm a huge diehard guy. Obviously I'm almost like mike. I love the national lampoons. One um, actually like having kids, like my son loves like the polar express, so like that's. One of my favorite movies to watch with him is the polar express yeah, I love watching that with him.

Speaker 2: 44:37

Um, this movie is actually pretty recent. I just watched with him. It was, uh, I think it was like red one with the rock and everything. That that was a good movie, man, yeah, definitely, you got. You got to check it out. That was a good one. And um, trying to think, I think that's pretty much it, because I'm not a big christmas story guy, like growing up, growing up man, we should watch that shit on repeat like the whole time, like now. Now I can't even like I see it.

Speaker 1: 45:09

I'm like nope, skip, it's like I just can't I think I'll agree with you because it is the one like that's one of the movies that's on like repeat constantly, like the whole entire day. It's going to be on on christmas, right, and I growing up I did not like I liked it, but I didn't like it like that, like I'd much obviously like santa claus or rudolph or you know one of those movies. Um, now that I took like a huge break from it, like a huge. I refused when I got older to watch that movie anytime it would come on, like I would change the channel like no, we're not watching that. Yeah, now, like I can watch it once a year and be like okay, like this is christmas, like you know, it's kind of like normal and natural to watch now, but only one time. I can't continue to watch it.

Speaker 1: 46:02

Um, and funny story, I actually posted my sister's birthday, um, and I don't know how many of you guys follow me on my personal page, but I should have and it's us christmas eve and we're watching blade on christmas. I don't know why we were watching blade, but yeah, when we were little kids like I'm a huge blade fan and I'm everything like that but like we were, we were watching Blade as little kids on Christmas Eve and I have no idea to why we watch Blade on Christmas Eve. But yeah, how about you Squatch? I know you're not the biggest movie person either, but I feel like you got.

Speaker 3: 46:37

Yeah, I got it. I got a few. So the Dr Seuss is Grinch, not the Grinch. How can I forget? I got a few. So the Dr Seuss's Grinch, not the Grinch with.

Speaker 1: 46:42

Jim Carrey.

Speaker 3: 46:43

How can I forget? Yeah, not.

Speaker 2: 46:45

Jim.

Speaker 3: 46:45

Carrey. I like the Dr Seuss one, dr Seuss, yeah Of course I can't believe I forgot that one. You can't forget about the Christmas Vacation with you know, Clark Griswold and the whole bunch, Elf Elf is one of my favorites.

Speaker 3: 46:59

Oh yeah, it's a good one favorites because you know, yeah, it's a good one, there's a knucklehead in that one. And then, uh, of course, yes, I grew up watching christmas story but I can't break away from it. It's just a freaking timeless classic. I'll sit there and watch it 50 times. You know, it doesn't matter to me. One of my freaking all-time favorites um, another one is scrooged.

Speaker 3: 47:20

I love scrooge with bill murray because that's you don't think of it as a Christmas, but it is a Christmas Kind of style Christmas movie. I don't know it came out, I just think it's cool, it's a funny movie. And, uh, there's a really old one. Oh man, I can't remember the name of it, but it had, uh, abbott and Costello in it and my grandfather and I used to watch. I can't, for some reason I can't think of the darn name of it, but it was an old, old black and white, uh, christmas comedy with with abbott and costello and it was. It was funny. We used to watch it all the time. But that's, that's about my favorite stuff. You know, movies like. I'm not a big movie guy either, but those are the old classics. I I do enjoy watching those. They're funny.

Speaker 1: 48:12

Yeah, now I I forgot about some and that's why I like asking other, cause there's just so many good Christmas movies out there. I mean, I'm actually looking up just just like what are some of these? And some of these I don't even know at all, um, no idea, I mean so new and stuff like that. But um, one I mean I guess it's it's you could put in the christmas and it's actually adam sandler's eight, eight crazy nights and I know it's more like hanukkah and everything like that. But I, I know there's some christmas stuff in there and I remember watching that as a little kid the first time. I didn't even know, really know, who Adam Sandler was at that time and you know, obviously Adam Sandler is a, is a absolute legend. Um, yeah, you know there's, you know the Nutcracker.

Speaker 1: 48:57

So we, we will go, not every year because it is expensive and everything like that, but we will go and we'll go see a christmas play like the christmas spectacular. We've seen the nutcracker um in new york city on broadway and I think um scrooge, all right, um, which was a absolute just banger of a play, huge play guy, believe it or not. I don't like going often, but when I do I love plays. They are pretty interesting. It's a little different of a style, you know, so I have to believe that, frank, are the kids sleeping right now Is the little one sleeping, the little one's sleeping, and I pick up my daughter tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1: 49:40

So you know what is. What is something that you know your little one has been asking you and what, what did santa get him?

Speaker 2: 49:48

oh, forget about man he got. He got so much shit man it's crazy. So he's. He's big into marvel, you know. So he loves, like all the superheroes, monster trucks, like I think we met like the santa over here, came on his sled. He asked him for a freaking for, like um, what was it? Like a robot shark type of thing. So we, so we had to run out and buy that for him at like the last minute. So that was today's adventure and shit, you know.

Speaker 1: 50:20

But uh, is he old enough? Where he's like, yeah, he, could you imagine? He sits on santa's lap and he's like, yeah, like a 12 gauge shotgun yeah, he's not there yet but he's almost.

Speaker 2: 50:33

You know so. But uh, yeah, no he's. You know he's big and like say he's big into like the marvel stuff and everything. So everything he asked for he got. Man, they're spoiled, these kids, so I wish I was that spoiled.

Speaker 1: 50:49

I have a question do you guys do because Bianca and I were talking about it, I don't know how I feel like I really don't know if I want to do this do you guys do the elf on the shelf thing?

Speaker 2: 50:59

so we did it for my daughter. We haven't done it for him yet, but we did do it for my daughter. We haven't done it for him yet, but we did do it for my daughter, and she was like I mean shit. Every single time she was, I mean, overly excited. So but it's like every year we come up with different things and you come out with a new elf on the shelf, like you know, either the dog or something else. You know we're like shit. Now we gotta buy the shelf. Like you know, either the dog or something else. You know we're like shit. Now we gotta buy that one too, you know, but uh, no, so I mean it's good, it's good and it's, you know, like I said, we haven't done it with him yet, though gotcha.

Speaker 1: 51:37

Do you guys plan on doing it with him, or you know?

Speaker 2: 51:40

be honest with you, we haven't really talked about it, so, um, so, like tomorrow, I'll pick up my daughter in the morning, we're gonna open, we're gonna let them, we're gonna bring them back home, let them open the presents from us tomorrow, except for my daughter, she gets everything, since I only have her for the day, and then we'll let him open his presents from santa on on christmas yeah yeah, so um, ethan, I know you you may have dropped a hint for santa and the wife to pick you up.

Speaker 1: 52:15

Uh, some, some severs. Is there anything else that you're you know you're looking forward to? Or, if the wife's not there, is there something that you that you bought her? That was very special.

Speaker 4: 52:25

Well, our apartment isn't that big.

Speaker 1: 52:28

Okay, okay, Gotcha gotcha.

Speaker 4: 52:30

What I will say is I got her some really cool stuff that I think we're both going to enjoy. There's one thing that I asked for. There's one thing that I asked for um, I really I wrote a letter to santa pretty much saying that I really wanted a new set of the hawk climbing sticks and, um, I didn't see anything come down the chimney, but there is a wrapped up box that looks like a box that would hold I can assume, but you never know listen it, it's close enough.

Speaker 2: 53:02

Go check it out. Let us know how. About you?

Speaker 1: 53:08

Squatch. You asked for anything for Christmas. You giving anything for Christmas. You are, you know, with the beard. You got the beard. You might as well just dye it completely white. Yeah, it's getting there.

Speaker 3: 53:20

Yeah, it's gray as hell. Now it's getting grayer man. All the, all the shit I go through. It's getting grayer every year, man but uh yeah, no.

Speaker 3: 53:31

Well, I asked santa claus for a, uh, a new 45, 70. Well, it might be because my birthday's in January, so, and it's a big one this year I'm turning the five, oh, this year. So, uh, you know I, it might be a birthday present too, I don't know. But uh, I put a couple of things in the into her, you know, and I, I got her stuff, you know, I always get stuff. I don't want to say cause you know she's around, but you know, but you know we, we always, we always splurge.

Speaker 3: 54:11

It's just her and I and you know we got the four dogs, but we always take care of each other with Christmas. You know. It's just one of those things. It's the the. The thing of it is is is you know you, you had Christmases past? The thing of it is is is you know you, you had Christmases past? There was a lot of people at the table and anymore there's not. So you got to cherish what you got with who you got and uh, you know value those times. Presidents are cool and stuff, but man, it's it's really about who you got around you still, you know a hundred percent.

Speaker 1: 54:45

I mean, that's something that you know now that the older I'm getting, like my mom, she was like what do you want? I was like I don't really want, like I couldn't even think of anything, like I didn't really want anything, especially with everything that's uh, yeah, going on and everything like that.

Speaker 1: 54:56

But uh, she actually got me, um, that stealth rig setup. Oh so I'm actually looking, I'm actually looking forward to that, especially like I'll see you know how it really runs and how I want to like use it for like hunting season but definitely like in the off season, about how much we shoot and everything like that when we do the archery competition, like that's gonna be nice just to put on my back and, you know, just be able to boom there. It goes um and then we'll obviously I'll test everything out and then go from there with hunting. But I'm actually really looking forward to that. And then the fiat say we actually just picked up, she brought me. You know, everyone knows like I'm a outside of hunting and working. You know the one thing I like to do to kind of relax is actually play video games. So she actually just bought me that new um.

Speaker 1: 55:42

We literally just got back from the store just not too long ago because I didn't want to get a new one. But NCAA came out for the first time since I was, I think, in high school and I went to go play it when they first dropped it and it says this game is not compatible with the xbox one you need. And I was like, of course I like I knew the time was coming where games weren't going to start to be compatible, and it's crazy. And so like old now where it's like I don't even care about getting new stuff, like I used to remember when I was a kid always wanted a new xbox came out, how to have it? New phone every year. I, man, I haven't gotten.

Speaker 1: 56:27

This thing is all busted and broken and I I think I'm almost done paying it off, so I think my bill's gonna go down. So I told the doctor she's like, oh, like, we need a new phone. We need a new phone. I'm like, yeah, yeah, we'll get one. I don't want a new phone. We're like we're almost done paying off this phone. Like I want a new phone. Um, so things are very cheap. But you know, I'm kind of looking forward to that because that's my, that's my relaxation time, like that's when I get to just sit here kind of turn the brain off and not think about anything else, unless I'm gaming and also working at the same time and doing the podcasts and like I do like the canva art, but that's so simple, like that. That's not like anything crazy, but that is the one nice thing. So she got me that.

Speaker 1: 57:09

And then you know, yeah, and I can't really say what, what I got her because she's she's not too far me and actually we got our nephews actually these pretty cool books and it's called chasing deer um it's just like a little, you know, a little quick read once they get old enough, where they can read, or you know, or um, my sister or sister-in-law they can read to, um, read to them and everything like that, um.

Speaker 1: 57:37

But yeah, now it's more kind of like getting the kids and and everything like that, um, our nep nephews and spoiling our nephews and everything like that with gifts until hopefully, you know, when we have kids and then I'll just let my mom and everything like that spoil the kids and get all the pride, like here, here's, here's, here's the list. This is what, this is what your grandchildren want. Go buy it and you know, just put Dear Santa and you know that's really it, um. But oh man, it's um, like I said, I can't, I can't believe it. You know, hopefully next year you guys can come to um american mike's um christmas party.

Speaker 1: 58:15

I mean, I know, squash, it's actually it's a long distance for all you guys, but you know maybe we can do it where you know you guys come down and then we go for a hunt or we do a hunt or so you know something where we can because it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1: 58:28

You know the way that they kind of do stuff and they did uh, they did a secret santa with all each other and everything like that. So it's a pretty cool thing. Um, love going, you know, love, love spending time with his family. Yonka and I had fun and everything like that shooting pool and just having you know a good time. And you know it's it's just that time of the year. Um, and anything else on the Christmas funds, any, anyone got any like cool traditions, anything like that? Um, we said the movies, what. One last thing what do you guys, what's your dish for Christmas? Anything special that you're rolling out For Christmas?

Speaker 4: 59:08

I smoke a venison backstrap On the Traeger every Christmas.

Speaker 2: 59:13

Venison parm for me, I do.

Speaker 3: 59:16

I do bourgeois.

Speaker 1: 59:19

Yeah, you said Okay. Yeah, I just know we, I don't know between. I love thanksgiving but I swear the dinner for christmas eve is so good too. It's just, that's really different. Like we'll have venison there, um. We're gonna make uh, goose poppers, um. But we're gonna save that for my sister will be down the 28th, so we'll save that for when she comes. But my mom usually gets like a filet and like does, does some great love filet, huge filet person. If I'm going to eat anything besides venison, it's probably going to be like a filet. But yeah, that's I mean.

Speaker 3: 1:00:07

I got it. I got a good one for for you. Sorry to sorry to cut you off all right. So when we were kids, go back, way back. You had to have that one toy. What was it? When you were a kid? You were dying for it. You still remember it to this day. What did you get? Oh, man, had to have it, couldn't live without it. It was the best toy you ever got. What was? What was your favorite toy growing up that you got at christmas?

Speaker 1: 1:00:33

oh, that's a tough one, that's a really that's a really tough and thinker, um, I would, I don't even know about a skates or something, maybe a hockey stick or something like that for you.

Speaker 1: 1:00:48

I got so probably it was definitely hockey related, like I will say it could have been a Jersey, like it was something definitely hockey related. To pinpoint what exactly it was, um, would be really tough. I would get my skates every year before the season because we're playing at such a high like level and pace and like we needed our gear, like right before the season. But I would always get um new sticks or but probably jersey, like I have a martin bernard jersey and I was a huge and then you know I'm not a big jersey guy. Um, I don't, growing up playing hockey, especially when you played at like usually most of the guys you'll notice like play at like really high level. They don't really wear jerseys. Yeah, but that was like the one, like I needed that jersey.

Speaker 1: 1:01:39

Um, and then, surprising or not, I got I mean, I got a lot of toys growing up but I got some banger books for my birthday and Christmas, always, like people who don't know me like I love reading, I'm a really big into reading. So books I always like I didn't know what books I was going to get, but my family and my family, friends and everything they would pick out these incredible books for me either on my birthday or christmas and I would always like look forward to that. It was, like my sister said it, the best. It was always the present we didn't think we needed, but the minute we got it we needed, like we had to have it, and that was kind of like. That was kind of like what it was.

Speaker 1: 1:02:22

Um, probably, especially really young huge power rangers guy like I was obsessed with power rangers and and stuff like that. So I don't even know what that is. Oh man, yeah, power rangers was, uh, when we were growing up, was a yeah, I don't even know when it started, but I think it started when I was, you know, when I was a kid and everything like that um, and just became a huge power rangers. You know, dude, I don't even know how to explain it it was. Now it's very corny, but like then it was the greatest thing in the world I don't know.

Speaker 3: 1:02:54

Yeah, I never heard of them things, but when I was a kid, I remember back and I was like man, I hope I get this, I hope I get this. It was, uh, capsula. I don't know if you guys ever heard of it, but it was like man, I hope I get this. I hope I get this. It was a capsula. I don't know if you guys ever heard of it, but it was like these round, clear plastic things that had ends on them and you could build all kinds of stuff and they had gears in them and you could make, like you know, spacecraft with them or you could make a thing that floated and it would go through the water. But it was neat, like, and you could add on to it and everything. I was probably like I don't know, maybe nine, eight, nine, ten years old, but I remember seeing that and I was like oh, I gotta get capsula.

Speaker 3: 1:03:33

That's gonna be cool. And it was like it was fun, man, because you could always add on to it, you could build different things and it had, you know, these little motors in it and I'm a mechanical guy always been, I always been in the motors and everything else. So it was cool, mess around with that and play with it. But that's one of the one of the best toys I remember getting when I was a kid, like couldn't wait to get it. And then I'm going to guess on Frank Frank's probably was Barbie dolls, and maybe it was well, cause he just adores, you know, like looking at girls, so he just had to have a Barbie doll, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:04:08

Hey, there's no wrong with that Squatch eh.

Speaker 3: 1:04:15

Now, what was yours, Frankie? You had to have something.

Speaker 2: 1:04:18

Man, I've been thinking, man, I don't know. Man, I honestly don't know. You caught me off guard with that one.

Speaker 1: 1:04:27

Yeah, it's a hard thing to think of when you're caught off guard.

Speaker 2: 1:04:34

God, what would it be?

Speaker 3: 1:04:35

There had to be something you loved to have as a kid, as a toy or something. You couldn't wait for Christmas to get it and open it up. You know, like Ralphie's got the BB gun, you know the red riot, yeah, yeah you know. But you know, I mean I did get it. I remember getting a gun for christmas was that 35 I still hunt with, but that was later on yeah, yeah, no, I would have.

Speaker 2: 1:05:00

Yeah, man, I don't know, I know, I know. My favorite one was when my grandfather bought me my, uh, my frenchie 20 gauge semi-automatic yeah, perfect.

Speaker 3: 1:05:12

So there you go. That's it. There you go. What about you, ethan?

Speaker 4: 1:05:17

I never really asked for anything for christmas. It was always like my parents would give me some gifts that were always like super thoughtful, but I never really like asked for anything but christmas. It was always like my parents would give me some gifts that were always like super thoughtful, but I never really like asked for anything but kind of same thing with frank just said the most memorable one that I can remember was I was like I was 14 and uh

Speaker 5: 1:05:36

my dad got me. It wasn't like a gift, but it was uh like a, a guided goose hunt. It was me and and my uncle.

Speaker 4: 1:05:47

We all went and I was like wait, I don't have like a, I don't have a shotgun that I can use like.

Speaker 5: 1:05:53

All I have is like a like a 50 over and under 20 gauge yeah it's a youth model, it's like a 18 inch barrel, like it's not gonna work and he's like, oh, that's what the other box is and I got it gave me like a brand new benelli 12 gauge pump action that was. That was the one that I remember for sure I would remember that one.

Speaker 1: 1:06:14

That's awesome man right, that is, you know, and it's crazy how, like we don't like really remember, like, exactly like, but, um, I actually think I did get a gun too for christmas, and I actually might have been really my first gun and I still have that, my 22, that my grandpa, my mom, well, I mean, I'm pretty sure that was for christmas. I've gotten some, and I've gotten, yeah, I, I think, besides the hockey stuff, like that was something I was really looking forward to Nice. Now I have a question for you, squatch, and I'm actually, you know, and even Frank, because I remember that I could tell the difference now from Christmas growing up to now, like, but for you guys, you know, what do you see as a difference of when you were growing up to now? I feel like just people just don't celebrate the holiday, like they used to.

Speaker 1: 1:07:10

I mean, I know people get offended now that if you say Merry Christmas and everything like that, so like that already tells you what type of world we're living in. Like what are some of the things that you guys remember when, when you guys were younger, growing up and I mean, if ethan, if you want to chime in on this too as as well you know it's definitely like a lot has changed and you know, um.

Speaker 3: 1:07:33

So I just I'm curious, especially for you, squash oh, like I said before, you know, we had a a big long table and everybody was there, you, know, yeah no how about you, frank?

Speaker 2: 1:07:55

yeah, basically the same thing. We used to go over to my uh, my aunts, all the time and everything and my whole dad side would come, because that's where my grandparents were, it's where my aunts were, my uncles and like similar to squats, like it was just a huge table and we would do it for thanksgiving, you know, christmas, everything, and now it's like everybody's off. You know, half those people aren't here anymore and everybody just started doing their own things with their own family and unfortunately, it's one of those things where we don't see them unless it's at a funeral or something, which is sad to say. But that's just the truth, you know.

Speaker 3: 1:08:38

I think that the other thing, too, that's missing nowadays is you know, you were younger, so you had so much anticipation of the snow days, the days off from school and just sitting there like we used to play rummy with my grandparents.

Speaker 1: 1:08:57

Great game.

Speaker 3: 1:08:59

And you know the holiday dishes, like my grandmother would make a tray of eggplant for each of us, not just for the whole crowd, she would make a whole plate too, but then there was a separate eggplant for you to take home and your father to take home. And you know, it's all that, all those old family traditions. I mean it was just having everybody around and and you know, like I said, people have gone off, they're not here anymore. So it's changed and it's it's up to us to kind of, you know, reiterate and and bring that stuff back out to whoever we have contact with, whether you have friends over or you're. You know you maybe your in-laws or your your. You know other sides of the family, whoever you do, or your new friends. You introduce them to that stuff.

Speaker 3: 1:09:49

And you know another thing too, to most of all is is they take God out of Christmas. You know it's, it's, it's one of the most important things. You know his birthday. Supposedly it's his birthday. I don't know if it's his birthday for sure, but you know people forget what it's really about. It's all about santa and reindeer and everything else. It's not.

Speaker 3: 1:10:09

There's more to it, and the older I get, the more I realize what it's about more and more each year and it all goes like I said it's. It's that ambiance of when you were a child and you were in your teens and your your early 20s and you still had everybody around you and you know it was like you know you expected, you know your couple uncles out in the living room watching football and then you know your grandfather's talking about the hunting season and how everything transpired, and you know the women were doing their thing and everything else, and it's just you know the women were doing their thing and everything else, and it's just, you know. They're all good memories, it's all good stuff that you had and and you know, for me you know, I know not everybody had the same upbringings, but you know it's, it's just that you wish you could hit replay and go back for just five minutes, you know yeah I think you hit a nail on the on the coffin right there.

Speaker 1: 1:11:05

I mean that's yeah, it's, it's like it's crazy how quickly it goes, yeah, and when you're in the moment you don't, you're not.

Speaker 1: 1:11:17

That's not what you're thinking about you know, but it really shows you just like, hey, you just got to cherish every single moment. You know, unfortunately, you don't know when the really shows you just like, hey, you just got to cherish every single moment. You know, unfortunately, you don't know when the last time you're getting together all as a giant big family or your friends or or whatever, and we can use this as as just life in in general, you know, I mean um everyday life, but I think, for for this holiday, I mean I think it's always been one of my favorites and and yeah, you know what as a kid it was. You know I loved getting presents, but the whole family was there, all my cousins even in our, like our house.

Speaker 1: 1:11:53

You know, my, my family, they would. You know there was a lot of us as kids growing up and they would do every single thing they could to make it special. I mean, some of my favorite memories are the food. You know just like how much food we have and like we're all having a good time and at that time I couldn't drink and I remember everyone all the adults are drinking. I'm like I can't wait to have that. I will never forget when I had my first rumble you know, and I was like yes, like I was so excited to have a rumble, you know, and it's.

Speaker 1: 1:12:26

It's just those like little memories. You know, I, I'm my cousin. I kicked him off the. We were sharing a bed and supposedly I don't know what type of dream I was having, but I supposedly just kicked him off the bed. He went flying, hit the dresser not, and I was supposedly sleeping like I didn't wake up. Everyone else woke up in the house, supposedly, but I was knocked out and like didn't, didn't even care. You know what I mean. Like those are kind of like the, the things that that we, you know we miss and I know you know, with frank, you know you got the kid and you know ethan you know, with your wife and squash with your wife.

Speaker 1: 1:13:04

You know you all make memories, but it's still hard, like, yeah, when you're, when everyone's not there, like it's it's, and especially, unfortunately, when you know when they, when someone does pass away. But I'll definitely say like I think it's more and don't you know, I feel like I have a like with my grandfather. He passed away but I still feel like he's, he's still there watching over us. So, yeah, that's different than just the family who now lives 15 hours away or whatever them just not coming because you know they're eight. You know things.

Speaker 1: 1:13:42

If things could work out a little easier, it would make it a little. I guess that's a little bit harder because you know they're still there, you know you still can talk to them, you still can go see them and everything like that. Vice versa, you know a family member who's passed away, where you definitely know that you're never gonna be able to see them, but they are still always going to be with you. You know, do you guys understand what I'm trying to say? Like it's just a that that's the hard part too of like damn, I really wish I can go hang out with my, you know, with my, my family and you know they're, you know somewhere else and everything like that. And those are the things too, that that you kind of miss us as well.

Speaker 1: 1:14:18

But boys, any last words, I mean I think this is a great Christmas one and New Year's listen, the New Year's episode is only one week away and I got to get a movie on that of everything that we're going to be doing for that. So the top five episodes Squatch, you went far. You went far.

Speaker 1: 1:14:38

I think he went up against the juggernaut. I think he went out with Matty Butts and he's been killing. I think he would have him in american mike last year, because american mike last year was getting almost like a hundred votes per yeah per thing and he's maddie butts is up there. So that would have been a pretty cool one for Juggernaut. I might have to do like a fan vote all time one year and see who's going to win. That would be cool. We're in the final four. I believe it is. Let me see who's the final four. I just had it up. It is going to be Matty Butts, zach from Knockdown, it is the Woods and Wild Game Freaks have made it to the final four. I think the final two is going to be Maddie Woods. I mean Maddie Butts versus the Woods. I think that's going to be the final two.

Speaker 1: 1:15:44

But we had a lot of Great episodes this year. I always love doing this. It is a fun thing to do. It's fun to see who's going to get the most votes and everything like that. But Squatch, yeah, I was proud Of you.

Speaker 3: 1:15:55

Yeah, you got far, you know, and well, you know, it's All it's all because you know our brotherhood Together. You know, and well, you know, it's all it's all because you know our brotherhood together. Uh, you know, and you guys allowed me to be part of this and and it's been a good, good run, and uh, hey, you know what, we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 1: 1:16:17

Maybe next year I'll do better, you know, but well, I I told you the from before you even joined with us and, like on the episode, like I just had to do this, I literally sat down and just just let him go go and it it was and I told you I said this was a great episode.

Speaker 1: 1:16:35

People are gonna really truly and I said I think you're, we'll go over the top five downloaded and I don't. I think you're just outside the top five, um, but like so really, and I think it was just unique getting your, you know when you talked and you know especially about you know growing up and everything like that and the family and just the traditions thank you.

Speaker 1: 1:16:57

Those are always. I think a lot of people love hearing those stories. I mean, yes, we love talking about what we're doing now and everything like that, but those olden stories you know, especially back in the what hunting was like and everything like those, really get like. I love listening to stories like that because then you picture it in your head like I could only imagine what it was like hunting back. Then I mean it's I. I really wish I could experience that.

Speaker 3: 1:17:21

So it was a whole other world back then. It was a whole different time. You didn't have all the crap that was going on. I mean, you guys are swatting at drones now down there in Jersey. Yeah, we might have seen a shooting star once in a while, you know, but I'm humbled. Thank you very much everybody who who voted. If you're out there listening, I appreciate the votes and there's more to come. I'm not done telling my stories yet definitely, definitely everyone.

Speaker 1: 1:17:56

We got the we're going to be having. We're still waiting to hear back from the people so we can confirm the game dinner. We're going to be at the Empire State Show February 28th to March 2nd. I believe that is officially 100% locked in. I think that will be in Sussex, new York, I believe I think that's what it's called, but I will get that for for you guys. Next, on next week's episode, um, I'll be at the great american outdoor show and I don't know when the rest of the guys are going to be going, but I will be there and the guys will be trickling in here and there. Um, so we'll be down at the great american outdoor show.

Speaker 1: 1:18:36

It is almost, uh, that time of the year where season season slowly come into an end and we're going to start the, the shows and everything like that. But, guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode of merry christmas everybody. I hope your, your holiday, is absolutely amazing. I hope you know you guys get to spend it with family and you know, have good, make a lot of good memories, have some great food. If you like to drink, have a few drinks. If you don't, you don't. I will say the winter weather is here. Supposedly january is going to be brutally cold. Yeah, it is supposed to snow tomorrow. So if you get the opportunity, go sledding gotta. I love sledding huge sledding fan squash. Take care of the roads you know, and stay safe out there.

Speaker 4: 1:19:21

I don't know if you got any snow.

Speaker 1: 1:19:23

Um, anytime soon, boys, I'll I imagine I'll see everyone uh next week for the uh new year's eve episode. Looking forward to it and I hope you guys all like good night, good night good night.