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Welcome back to the gunsplay outdoors and podcasts by coming out.

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That's why you're your back. Accidentally drifted like this.

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Yeah, the last trip over, I shot a great cape off welcome about charging. And then the whooping. And then you hear.

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All right, everyone. Welcome back. It is week nine or not. This is episode nine of our um field notes segment. And yet again, November is just not disappointing at all for us. I mean, I wish we could just keep this November going and not end because at this point, I mean, this has got it for a team. Um, this is definitely by far our most successful November. I mean, everyone is just getting on the action, and you know, we we had another very successful week. Um, and Zach really led off and started it off uh this week. So, Zach, why don't you uh why don't you lead off with that and let everyone know?

SPEAKER_03: 1:28

Yeah, so we had an opportunity out in Oklahoma to go hunt down in Lone Wolf through uh 4B outfitters with uh Jeff Nashley. So I get out there with my buddy, and it was a four-day hunt, and we ended up going into the first day, morning we took off because we didn't get into late, and it was like probably like 9:30, 10. So it my introductions were like cool, go to sleep. And then uh the next morning we get up there, uh, get our bows out of the cases, get everything ready. But man, when it came down to crunch time for this hunt, it came down to the final day, and I was just like, oh my gosh. So I had the morning hunt, and I was like, okay, let's um see what we can do here. I'm watching, well, first let me back up the day before I had this monster buck come in. Like this thing was at least a 10-point his rack was two, probably about two times outside his ears, and I was he was a hoss. Well, I had I was drawn back on him for probably two and a half minutes because there's this other eight-point that just walks right in front of him and just stays there. I'm like, come on, man. So by the time I'm like ready to shoot, so we're we're up close in person, we're in a blind now. I'm at 24 yards, and I'm just like, I am not moving, so I'm like shaking a little bit, and I'm like, this is getting old. That buck finally moves, shot sails right over, and I'm like, oh my gosh. He circles back around though. So I re-knocked. Same thing happened. Shot again, and it went to the right. I'm like, what is going on with me? And Jeff, the outfitter, just looks at me, he's like, Well, at least I just you know book hunts for people to miss. I was just like, I was just like, Mm, dude. Like, but they were pretty cool people. They taught, they like treated us like family, and I felt like I left there as a family um or having a new family. So the following morning, um, this was like redemption time. I was in the Milo field, and we're watching this buck, first year to break the wire, pretty much. He comes out straight towards us. I'm glassing him, and I'm like, all right, this dude, he's solid. Um and it appeared to be an eight point. And I'm like, all right, great, this is awesome. So he comes around and he hits the the feeder not too far from us, and as he's walking in, he starts dropping his head. I asked my buddy, I was like, this instance like 35. And as soon as he gets five out of his mouth, I release and he jumps my strings but spines him. And I was like, oh no. But he's down on the ground, the back legs aren't working. Knock another arrow. Here he comes, he picks his head back up, and I was like, All right, here he goes, put it right back into him, and it finished the job. But dude, when I walked up to this deer, I didn't expect to see this. So on his brown tines on the back, he has one that sticks out another inch, an inch and a half. So I was like, okay, so there's nine, and then down at the base on each antler, he has one that sticks out going another inch and a half on each side. So it ended up being an 11 point, and I was like, holy hell, he ended up weighing 235 pounds on the hoof. Oh, and I was like 235 pounds on the hoof.

SPEAKER_02: 4:46

Big gear out there, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 4:47

But I didn't, we didn't have like I did take a picture of the scale, which I I really wish I didn't.

SPEAKER_02: 4:52

Thank God, because for the the competition.

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I know, man. I was like, I was just like, as soon as we finished like quartering it, I'm like, wait a second, my buddy's like, what? I was like, should have gotten a picture of the weight, should have got a picture of the weight would be the biggest buck in the season, I guarantee you. Yeah, he was dude massive. So found a local family um that was in need of meat, and we ended up donating all the meat to them except for one backstrap. We had a backstrap for lunch that day, and then um the family took in the meat and they were very thankful for it. So that's I would have brought it home, but I didn't feel like dishing out$1,800 to bring back all that meat. Oh wow, man, wow. Did you flip did you fly or drive out?

SPEAKER_02: 5:38

Oh, we flew. We flew.

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If I drove out, we would have put it in ice and would have gotten back. So but it was amazing, and then the next that evening, it was my buddy's final hunt. And of course, that same eight points that kept getting in my way, I saw him at the same spot every time at the same exact time. So I'm like, we're gonna go get that. And I was guiding for him, and he's sitting there, it's getting late, and I'm like, oh no, he is not coming. I'm like, he should have been here 15 minutes ago, and then all of a sudden he's like, field, field, field. And I look straight ahead, pulling my pinos in a glass, and it's just a deer, a cold deer has a club coming up, and then a straight spike coming up, and I'm like, call buck. And he's like, damn it. But then a minute later, here he comes. I was like, There he is. He's like, Oh, thank God. And I was like, We're gonna get him. So he comes in, I was like, let him settle, let him settle, let him get used to the area real quick. He's looking around, he finally puts his head down, he starts eating, and I was like, as soon as you see that shoulder come forward, take your shot. Shoulder comes forward, he has the distance, and I was like, You're good. As soon as I said you're good, he sends this this arrow. The most perfect shot for someone who's never really taken down a deer at all in his life is the second deer he shot at. First one obviously was um that deer lived, but it as soon as it hit that deer, I was like, Oh, he's going down because it was double heart or sorry, double lung and heart, and he moved probably less than 20 yards, and I watched him pile up. And as soon as I said he's down, he the sigh of relief that he had was just you can hear a pin drop in that blind. Just he was just like it was awesome. It was it was really rewarding, but um the overall coolest part of that whole trip was their son just took up archery, he's like 11 years old. Um, and he the school just introduced archery that for the season for like competition and stuff. So he's out in the yard trying to hit this target, and he's having the hardest time. So I just walked up with my buddy Rob, and we teach him how to shoot. Next thing you know, he is his confidence level, of course, just goes through the roof, and he's just like, I'm just gonna do this blindfolded now because he was just drilling target dead center every time. I'm like, man, look, listen to this kid. But it was it was awesome to see him going from not being able to do anything to actually hitting the target and being on target. So it was it was a lot of fun. That trip is definitely happening next year for sure.

SPEAKER_02: 8:20

Yeah, I mean, what it looks great. I mean, I I wish I wish I definitely could have made it. Um, you know, it's Oklahoma. Well, like, so that's your first time there. What was your first like you get off the plane, you see what are you thinking when you first get to Oklahoma?

SPEAKER_03: 8:38

This place is wide open. Where are deer at? But then I then because it was dark, like I couldn't see a dang thing, and I'm like, yeah, whatever. But then the next morning, as soon as the sunrise, I see the mountains, and I see like not like an insane amount of trees, and I was like, okay, this is gonna be insane. So like out, they had owl dad out there, like it was just unbelievable. Definitely want to go back. I want to make that like an annual trip.

SPEAKER_02: 9:10

Yeah, yeah. Big big I mean, and I imagine just the beer, the bear, the the deer are just probably the biggest that that you've seen, you know, so far. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's your your hunting career, too. Dude, they're insane.

SPEAKER_03: 9:24

The dough out there, even like they would come out. My buddy has he took an amazing amount of photos. Um, the day before he actually captured the the buck I killed. So I'm getting all of those framed, and then I'm gonna put the euro in the center of it, and there's like eight photos, they're gonna be like in a diamond around it. I'm like, but he got some really cool photos of these doe and everything. They're their uh pelt is just so clean, like perfectly red, perfectly brown. Like you could just they're healthy deer, and I'm just like, oh yeah, like you wouldn't even get like what's what's EHD? What's chronic waste and disease? That's like not a thing. It seems like out there. Yeah, it's what it seems like. I mean, it probably is out there, but it just seems like these deer are just so healthy.

SPEAKER_02: 10:11

So interesting. I mean, yeah, I I guess it it would it would make sense. I wonder also it's because they're they're they're maybe they're so spread out too. Um, you know, I don't I don't know. Yeah, that's that's pretty interesting. I mean, Oklahoma, you always you always hear about Oklahoma and stuff like that. Um, you know, I always know Oklahoma for football, tornadoes, farming and hunting.

SPEAKER_03: 10:37

Oh, dude, the wind out there was insane, too. That sucked. That really sucked. It was whipping, I think we had 40 mile an hour gusts this the second day. Whoa then 30, and it was thank god for a blind man because if there was no blind, I would have been in a tree, just like, oh, this sucks. But uh, we had one morning, it hit 23 degrees, and the wind was whipping, and I was like, this sucks, this really sucks. Like, why am I out here?

SPEAKER_02: 11:02

That's what I do hear about the Midwest is like it's when it does get windy because, like, here, at least on the east coast, we're in the what you get that break in in the wind, you know, it's not as over there, it's just so open that it just gets you get thus annihilated with with wind.

SPEAKER_03: 11:21

Yeah, dude, it's it's awful. The wind here, it's it's been pretty chill. Like this morning wasn't too bad, but then throughout the day it just started picking up, and I was like, uh, but my buddy man, my buddy had this eight-point come daylight at 3:40, but our first sergeant was being a douchebag and and wouldn't let him go because he was trying to get out the door. He's like, Man, there's a lot of dust on these desks. It's like, who gives a rat's ass about dust right now? This one season man, so and then he's like on his way out, and he's just like he looks over it and he's just like mother effer. And I was like, What? He showed me his phone. I was like, damn, he's like, I would have been there for 30 minutes when he walked out. I was like, That that sucks. I blame that guy, right?

SPEAKER_02: 12:09

Yeah, no, and and and so now you you come home from Oklahoma. It's always nice when you go somewhere and you travel and you you you're you have success and you get to come home and you still have still have your tags uh home and everything like that. You know, I know you know we were talking about the unfortunate situation, everything like that, and you know, Frank, I know missed it, but Frank knows your your pain when it when it comes to that and everything like that. And I but I think as as hunters, like we we've all been there, like target, target panic is a real thing. Like and it feels like it get and it's the one thing that it's the when it happens during the season, it is so hard to beat because obviously, like if it happens at the end of the season and like you you're going into a whole off-season, or or if you're having uh issues in in the off season, it's like alright, like I have time, like I can come out every single day if I need be, and I can just shoot arrows after arrow after arrow. But in the hunting season, like you know, we we try to shoot our bows as much, but at the end of the day, like not everyone has the ability to go shoot their bows every single day. Not everybody has the backyard or a range super close. So there are times where you're like, uh, like you don't get to focus and practice on it. At the end of the day, during the season, it's it's killing time. Like, we you you want to spend as much time as you want in the woods, but like I feel like the minute you have that first like miss or high shot or whatever, it it just goes. It resonates in you. And and it's it's like it's it just stays in. I always say from my personal when I'm at my best, is when I'm not overthinking stuff, right? And I have a complete trust in from my bow to my arrows to my broadheads, like at the end of the day, that's why I'll never use rage. And I know a lot of people that kill a lot of big deer with rage, yeah. And you know, I for me, they could be the best arrows on the market hands down, but because I had my issues with it already, yeah, to me, I wouldn't feel confident going out, and then the next thing I'm gonna be worrying about is when you pull back, what I used to have was the the uh collar, the freaking the blades would come out. You know, like I I couldn't imagine, and I did hear from a lot of people like they have fixed that, but like the minute I draw back, that's what I'd probably be drawing back, and then looking at my my broadheads just to make sure they're you know, one's not one's not dangling right, and that right there that's is gonna throw you off, and it's going to like it, it just takes your head out of the game versus you know, you really just archery is that everything really you need to have confidence in what you're doing and in your equipment, dude.

SPEAKER_03: 15:35

That's me right now. Like, I'm on my fourth different broadhead just because like I went mega meat, shot weird, like I don't know why. Usually they they're fine, but this year there's all over the place. Like, I don't I don't know if it was an arrow, I don't know if it was me. Um, switched up literally everything just the other day again. Like, I got the RX9. Well, first I was using the V team at the beginning of the season, then the the RX9 got gifted to me, which was a blessing, and then I got gifted this RX 10, which is an even bigger blessing. I was like, you know what? Screw it, I'm gonna change up everything.

SPEAKER_02: 16:09

First of all, before we go, who is who is blessing you with all these gifts? Because I need them to be my friends or something like that.

SPEAKER_03: 16:16

Yeah, so my uh the shop I'm doing a lot of um social media for OEL or Oceans East, they pretty much have been hooking me up because like I'm not really getting paid. Um, so like when they get new stuff in, they'll be like, Zach, come by, we got something for you. Because like I'm doing a lot of social media for them, I'm building their website for them. So, and I'm also building a website for 4B outfitters now. So that's gonna hook me up with hunts in the future as well out in Oklahoma. So cool. It's all honestly because of the pages. I've just been running and gunning with it, man, and reaching and networking, and it's just freaking unbelievable how much it has really blessed me, man. Like, yeah, nice, man.

SPEAKER_02: 17:03

It's awesome. Hey, listen, uh, you know, with a bow shot. I know we're all most of us are in Jersey, but you know.

SPEAKER_03: 17:10

Oh, don't worry. I'm I'm like thinking, okay, how can I work in like you know, give me like 15 packs of those broadheads right there, those beasts, or give me some of these over here. Like I'm working, I'm trying to work on Jeff so hard, and he's like, Mom man, you know, we don't want to do so much for you. Like, if I could if I could do that for you, man, I I don't think I can do anything else this year. He was like, All right, dude, whatever. And they just opened up a new one in uh Hampton. So I gotta go over there, do a lot more photos. I gotta open up that Instagram page for that shop, which I think they should just keep it the same because it's gonna be the same product at both shops. But the only problem is they don't have is a is a range. And I went to the owner the other day and said, like, hey, how much how much would you be willing to spend on a range? And he was just like, probably about 20,000. Like, say less, dude. Let's go. Like, I'm like, let's go build an awning outside, let's get some 3D targets out there. Like, I could do this for like 2,000 bucks. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02: 18:11

That's that'd be sick. That would yeah, that would be pretty cool. Uh, I think if more archery shops had ranges and stuff like that, it'd be even you know more class.

SPEAKER_03: 18:20

Oh, you'd sell, you'd sell, unbelievable. Like the one place that does have a range here, Freedom, they only have a 17-yard range, but they hit people like crazy in there all the time, and they're selling product left and right, but they only sell like elite, red line, darn, wreck, rage, and that's literally it. Oh, and they had they had Matthews as well. So, but they don't have a lot of bows to pick from, they only have like 10 Matthew bows to pick from, and like yeah, 10 elite, and that's about it, and only two Darton. They haven't even gotten their flagship um bow in yet.

SPEAKER_02: 19:01

Well, well, so oh there, there he is. I mean, what's up? I was about to say, Frank, you you're frozen there, or yeah, froze up, um but um so our our next killer, Mr. Well, Squash, I'll let you introduce him because oh yeah, I just want to say Frank doesn't call me and complain about situations.

SPEAKER_01: 19:29

Um things go good.

SPEAKER_02: 19:33

Frank only calls for the good stuff, so you know, I'm very creepy that I'm the good news person. Um you know, and I don't hear all my rants. Yeah, like I don't have to sit there and just oh yeah, Frank, you know, uh-huh. Yeah, okay, maybe maybe you should do this, you know, where Squatch really wants to just say, Frank, I'm sorry that you just suck and you I gotta be nice. Um you know, I I get the I get the good stuff, and you know, hey, what'd you kill this time? Or yeah, let's go, you killed something. The actually, you know, the only bad news that I got, and I I can't even say it was bad news. Yeah, Frank called me while I was uh me and Bianca were going to see a movie, and I was like, I'm in the movie. He's like, No worries, it's not not anything like super important. Called him back when I got out. Yeah, it's like oh like I I had a beautiful that that big nine-pointer, you know, and I just think it and I don't even consider that like bad news, so you know, I couldn't imagine being squatch and having listened to basically Frank have his you know therapy session and you know and be a therapist. Like I love the joy, and I love when Frank's happy, I'm happy. And Frank is usually always giving me great news, so I'm always really happy. So Squatch, why don't you introduce introduce the killer himself?

SPEAKER_04: 20:59

So our buddy Frank has acquired a new name through the squatch. And you he's laughing already because he knows what it is, but he goes by now, broadside situation, Frank. Frank is from New Jersey. Frank is a very handsome guy, he's Dapper, he's always keeps himself up, unlike the Squatch, who's just burly and hairy, and you know, I look like I just came out of some freaking horror movie or something. But you know, so uh one day we're talking, and I'm like, man, poor Frank again. He's always got a situation. And the guys and I are all talking, and I'm like, I type in situation on the GIF on the on the thing, and it comes up with the guy from Jersey Shore, the situation. And I'm like, it's perfect, it's him. There's a situation, he's always calling me if there's a situation, you know. So it just fit, and we just you know, we're only busting on Frank. We love Frank. He's a good guy, and he takes jokes good, man. And you know, we all we all get our day in the in the spotlight of uh being the brunt end of jokes and stuff, but uh no, I take pride, I take pride in uh being his go-to guy with uh issues, and I give it right back, believe it or not, you know, as long as I've been around, I I get frustrated with stuff too, just like everybody else. We confide in each other, and um, it's a nice thing that we have. We work together on stuff, you know, we're there for each other, and and you know, that that olive branch and everything else, that's always extended out to everybody on this crew, you know. We all go through trap, and um, you know, but it's just like you know, sometimes you got the inseparable two of the school class, and that's kind of like Frank and I. So uh we just see things in a certain manner, but I gotta bust kahunies when I can, you know, and that that whole thing with the you know, we we put the gifts up on there, and it's like we got a situation, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 23:03

You know, and everybody's back in the chat.

SPEAKER_04: 23:07

Oh, well, look, the situation's back. He hasn't been freaking commenting in a while. So you know, but no, Frank, Frank had some issues with his bow. Um it was poorly set up. Uh, I won't I don't know the name of the place, so I won't bash him, but um he had just that had had some mechanical difficulties going on. Um I got him up here to the house, uh did my stuff with it and got him out in the yard and he was shooting and he fine-tuned it the next day. He had a couple little uh more tweaking to do on it. I told him what to do and um just told him I said, look, you know, just just feel confident what you got. And he says, I feel so much better. This thing, and another thing, his D loop was screwed up, right? So now I look at his I look at his freaking peep site that's moving around, and this D loop looks like he's had a beaver gnawing on it for like two months. And I said, Dude, are you trying to punch yourself out up in the tree stand? You like living on the edge. This will be the next freaking phone call I get from the situation. It's gonna be squat, quat squat. You won't believe it. The template was there. I drew back and punched myself in the lip with the beavering. I knocked my tooth out. I knocked my tooth out.

SPEAKER_03: 24:26

Now I gotta go to the dentist to pay two thousand dollars to get a nipple.

SPEAKER_04: 24:30

Then he'll probably ask me if I do those too, but I don't. But uh, you know, so anyway, uh, I I get done serving this damn peep site in, so it doesn't move. I look down and I'm like, I I just look at him, I go, really? And he's like, I know, I know. And he's looking down and I'm like, We'll fix it, buddy. I got I got D loop material. I'll retie it in. For one thing, they had it pinching the knock, it was too tight on his knock, and it was like a freaking three eighths long. I'm like, that ain't great for him, you know. So I gave him a little bit more length, I gave him some more room in his in his uh D loops on a knock wouldn't pinch. And I asked him, I said, Does the bow feel more comfortable in its wall when you're drawing back? And he goes, Yeah, it's never felt like this. I said, Okay, good. Well, he went home, he shot it the next day, and he says, Uh, dude, this thing is stacking arrows. I can't thank you enough. I said, You don't have to. I'm glad it worked. I only know what I know. It's a gift from God. I'm mechanical, I can fix things. Be just go kill the deer, let me know you got 'em. That's all I want to know that you knock one down. So, Frank, you got your introduction as the situation. Thank you, sir. Why don't you why don't you reiterate now on your excellent equipment that you can use and how you used it?

SPEAKER_01: 25:56

Yeah, no, so you know, as as Squatch was saying before, you know, we After having a few mishaps, you know, he he fixed all that for me and we got it figured out, and we're the whole thing was, you know, getting my confidence back. Cause I I even told, I think I even told you on the phone, Mike, that I was starting to lose my confidence. You know, but um I got it back and I just got back out there, man, and I was just grinding, I mean constantly grinding, trying to figure out what these deer were doing this year, because on this property they they switched stuff up on me big time, man. And there was one side that I really didn't pay much attention to last year because I just one, I just simply ran out of time. So um I focused a lot on on this this one particular side, and I was just grinding, man, running cameras, and it always seemed like I was a step like one step behind him. I was constantly on them, constantly getting the pictures, constantly seeing them. Once the rut hit. Before the rut hit, they were very sporadic, and they would come through. I think I was I think I was bitching to you, Squatch, once every two, three weeks they they would come through.

SPEAKER_05: 27:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 27:18

And I'm like, what yeah, and I'm like, what like what the hell's going on? Like last year, you know, they were constantly there, like every couple days, every you know, every two days, every whatever it was.

SPEAKER_05: 27:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 27:32

And um, but eventually I I got them figured out. And uh man, I was going out there, I had so many encounters come this route, man. I was I was getting frustrated, man. I was getting frustrated, I was getting fatigued. I was just I left actually because I have a few um permanent stands in there, and I was just using my saddle and just jumping from tree to tree, just to try to get closer to them. All right, this is what they're doing, this is what they're doing. And you know, it was like every time it happened, they they would show up and something would happen to me. It'd be a situation, right? So, you know, I'd be like, what the freak, man? You know, like I finally got him figured out, and I had that that beautiful dime pointer come in. I had passed several bucks before he even showed up. And uh all of a sudden I I look over and I see him, he's coming with his head down, and I remember Squatch telling me, especially on this trail I was, he goes, draw way before he gets there and just be ready and just hold it. And as soon as he stops, you know, take your time, you know, make make your shot. So I think I waited because actually he was he was actually going the other way. I grunted at him, he stopped, he turned, he looked, and I'm like, Well, are you coming? They're like, What's your plan? And he was just he was you can see he was thinking about it, and then he just he beelines right for me. So I'm like, Oh my god, he's coming. So I like I turn on the camera, I hit the bow ready, and he gets to like 25 yards, and now he gets like even though he's facing me, he gets kind of like behind this tree. I'm like, Oh, that's perfect. So I draw when he when his whole like his whole face is behind the tree, I draw on him, and I'm holding, I'm holding. And I was telling you, Mike, I should, you know, he I was literally holding, holding and just following him until he got basically to the base of my tree. And I'm just like, no. And he's literally right under me. And I was like, I was like, oh, you gotta be kidding me. I was like, all right, just let him pass. Once he passed, you know, once he passes you, try to stop him, and you know, make sure, you know, you aim for like his last rib, make sure you you put it in there, right? And once you know it, I let him pass me. I go to stop him, and I didn't even think I was that loud. Maybe I was that loud, maybe he was just on edge, I don't know what it was, but he jumps to like 20 yards, and I'm just like shit. So now I'm like, I'm trying to pick an opening. He stopped behind most of this, it is like open woods. I have a lot of time to shoot them. Except this one spot, there's this one tree that's got a million and one fucking tree branches sticking out of it. And he's standing right behind it. And I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I'm like trying to look for a hole. I was like, it ain't happening. So I remember like I let down and I'm like, all right, what's he gonna do? He's just kind of looking around. So I'm like, please, like, kind of like make a loop and circle back. He doesn't do that, he walks the great straight away and just keeps going. And I'm just like, Yep, that figures. I hung up the bow and I was like, Yep, un unreal. This is unreal. And I I was devastated. I called Mike the bitch in Mike, but he was in the movies and a bitch to squatch through text messages.

SPEAKER_02: 31:34

Yeah, and yet again, it that was that's not a bad negative. Like at the end of the day, no, it wasn't a bad one. That's a win, and that's as close as you're gonna get to, you know, that's successful right there. But I think with with the season that you're having, and no, I think anyone there like it's it's a killer when you get a buck like that, and you just it's one stupid little tree with some brand. Like that's like that's like a big F you. Yeah, and it there's nothing that that you can do about it. You just have to sit and watch that deer just walk away from your life, and you know what? It's that time of the year where who knows that deer could have came in from three miles away in a whole I've never seen him before, and you'll probably never see him again. Yeah, and you know, it's yeah, no, it it's a tough one, but it was I was like, Oh, I'm like, damn. And when you're telling me that, like being tagged out, yet again, as good as it is, I'm like, damn. Everyone's now shooting deer, everyone's deer, and all that.

SPEAKER_01: 32:43

You even told me that on the phone. You're like, man, you're like, I know it sucks for you, but I kind of miss it.

SPEAKER_02: 32:49

I do like I I I really miss chasing chasing deer. Like, if you know, if Delaware was just like a tad bit closer, I'd have no, I mean it's their rifle season right now, so I really don't feel like being down there, but like I would be I'd want it, like I I just have that itch, just just the itch.

SPEAKER_01: 33:07

Yeah, yeah. No, but like even even with me, I mean, I seen him, and I was like, all right, the next day I'm gonna go out. I think it was the next day, or maybe been like a day or two. Yeah, I was like, all right. It was right, yeah. I'm pretty sure it was. So I was like, all right, I'm like, I'm gonna pick a different tree this time, and I'm gonna kind of get get stuff situated because I know where they're coming out of, because I watch these deer constantly coming out of this one thicket. I was like, all right, I'm gonna get all set up, go in there, same thing. I I get in there about I think it was like two o'clock in the afternoon, get everything set up, and I'm just waiting. I'm seeing, you know, a few small bucks, a few does coming out of there, nothing crazy. Yeah, and I'm just about to start packing up to get down, and all of a sudden I look up and I could see a deer coming out of the thicket, and I could see his white rack, and I was like, oh man, that I was like, that looks like a good one. It wasn't that nine. I'm not be honest with you, I'm not sure what buck it was. I thought it was a big six, it he could have been an eight. I'm not, I'm I couldn't even tell you. So I put my binoculars up, I'm like, oh that that's a good one. And all of a sudden the doe turns. I didn't even see the doe that he was with. She turns and she starts coming towards me, and he's just he's just following her. I'm like, I'm like, here we go again. So I get get my bow, I get all set up, I'm waiting. She's bringing him right to me. Now she breaks off, but for some reason he kept he kept going the way he was going. He walked by me at I think it was like 18 or 19 yards. And now it's like it's it's like last light. I draw back, I can see hit, I can see his horns perfect. I could kind of see his I could see his face, couldn't see his body. When I look through my when I look through my peep sight, I couldn't like decipher where the ground was, where his body was. Like I couldn't see it. And I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. So now I had to stay up there till dark. He's walking around my tree stand for like three, four minutes, just like looping before he decides to go look for her again.

SPEAKER_04: 35:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 35:34

But I'm I'm like, man, now I'm gonna stay up here till like pitch black because I don't want to I don't want to blow him out of here. I don't want to see him to see me coming down. So, you know, I was like, damn. So I stole I s I s after that I kept watching the cameras just to see what was going on. And uh I hunted it a few mornings, which I knew wasn't really a morning spot, but I'm like, hey, like it's the rut, you never know, right? Yeah, so I went and I saw a few small bucks. So the this past Saturday, I was like, same thing.

SPEAKER_02: 36:11

Real quick, Frank, before was this because I don't know if you're was this the same, which day was it where you you had you blew your tire out?

SPEAKER_01: 36:20

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that.

SPEAKER_02: 36:23

But that's right. This this this is another issue that Frank has been having.

SPEAKER_01: 36:27

This was another situation, this was another situation we came two days situations. I can't believe I forgot that part. Thanks for reminding me, Mike. So another thing, another thing that pissed me off. So I was off of work, I took off three days. This happened, those encounters happen in that in those spans of those days that I was off. So the very last day uh that I had off was was Wednesday. So I get up at three o'clock in the morning, put my stuff on, I'm amped to go. I'm like, dude, I've been on them. Like, today's probably gonna be the day. So I get get dressed, go outside, start my truck up, and all of a sudden I'm just about to walk away from the truck. I hear ding. I like I'm like, what the fuck is that? So like I look I look on my dashboard, and there it is, it's showing my tire pressure. Um it was like the back passenger tire is showing zero. So I walk around, yep, it's flat. I'm like, well, this ain't stopping me. I was like, I think I can get away with this. So I'm gonna go get my I'm like, I'm gonna go get my air pump, I'll put air in it, and I only gotta drive like 10 minutes down the road. Like, I'm pretty sure I can make it, I'll deal with it when I get out of the woods. Put my pump on, turn, turn the pump on. A few minutes later, I hear the pump go off. I was like, huh. I was like, it put that much air in it already? I was like, well, that was quick shit. So I go over there, pump's not working. It would turn on, shut on, turn on, shut off. I got, and this is all like like three, like 3:30, 4 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, that's it, I'm done. I grab the pump, throw it in the truck. I'm like, I'm going back to bed. So I I get up, I start taking off my stuff off. My wife's like, she's like, what are you doing? Like, you're stomping around the house. Like, I thought you were going out. I'm like, I got a flat. Nah, it's not working. She listen, she regretted asking me that question. Oh, I bet. She's like, All right, well, we'll, you know, whatever. Just calm down, go back to bed then.

SPEAKER_02: 38:41

Like, I you know, I can see Frankie sitting in bed, covered with his hand his hair, just like motherfucking things.

SPEAKER_01: 38:50

It was exactly that. It was exactly that. I was like, well, you know what? Fine. I'm gonna put my son on the bus and then I'll go get the tire fixed. So I was just laying there until I fell asleep. And I'm I think I don't know if I told you guys, I'm sitting there and my phone's going ding, ding. Oh my god. About 6:30, 7 o'clock, there there's one of the shooter bucks walking right where I was gonna go. There's something else on the farm. I was like, Yep. So I was like, I see how this is gonna go. So I went, fixed my tire, and I'm like, I think I went out that night, um, but uh, I didn't see any any of those bucks. They already had like passed through, they didn't come back. So I was like, well, you know, all I could do is just watch the cameras, see what happens, and I did just that. I I stayed on them. I I really watched that thicket and watched a uh a few other areas that I knew that they were coming to because I had two spots of um where I put the racket or the rack rope that they were hitting those constantly, so I was like, I don't know where I'm gonna go. Wherever I get action, that's where I'm gonna go. And that thicket, for some reason, it was like one right after the other. So Saturday I got up. I I picked a different tree, I set up, got ready. I had um in the morning, I always seen a spike in a dough. That was it. It was a slow morning. I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna go get some breakfast. Went went, got some breakfast, took a nap in the truck for a little bit. I was like, all right, I got up. I'm like, all right, it's time to go. I was in the tree stand, I think I went out around two. I I was in my tree stand by two. And you know, I'm just just getting everything set up, set up the camera, and I was like, you know what? I was like, I'll let out like a few like Do Estra spleets and um and a and a few like tendon grunts and see, you know, see if I can make something happen. I I did that around a quarter to three, and not even like five minutes later, I like look around the tree and I see one that that big eight eye shot. I see him come storming out of that thicket, and I'm just like I still have the grunt call in my hand, like, oh, so I put it in my bag. I'm trying, I try and turn on the camera, I get the camera on. I grab my boat and I was like, all right, I know he's gonna come to this side of the tree. Like, I got him, like I got him, like he's in trouble now. So I'm waiting, I'm kind of like peeking at him, and I can kind of see him. He's he's like beelining, like he's pissed. Like he came in, like, what what's going on? And all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm waiting him to get on my strong side, and I can still hear him, but I don't see him. I'm like, he should have been here by now. I was like, I was like, that son of a bitch, he's going on the other side of the tree. I look over and there he goes, he's going to my weak side. I'm like, no, so I'm like trying to like scoot over, I'm like trying to figure out how to get my bow over. Finally get it over. I draw back almost right away because I knew there was one shooting lane that he was gonna come in. It was like 25 yards, so I moved my slider up to 25 yards, and he just came right there. I stopped him and I just I drilled him. Actually, I hit him more forward than I than I originally thought. Um, I think it was because of one, I was probably rushing, and two with that angle, you know, I was kind of offset a little bit trying to make the shot. So I hit him more far forward. So I actually hit him like right in front of the shoulder, but it hit it took out his whole neck, like the arrow completely passed through him, and he was just gushing. I mean, as soon as I hit him, I couldn't tell exactly where the arrow hit him, but I I seen it fly right towards his shoulder, then it was gone. I was and I I was watching the way he was acting, he ran about like 80 yards, he did a complete loop, and there's like this rock wall, and he stops at the rock wall because he wanted I could see it, he wanted to go over it because he stopped and he looked like he was gonna go for it. And I'm like, please don't like please just no, please, please don't. And uh I look through the binoculars and I just see both legs, I mean, just cover there. Wasn't an ounce of brown on his front legs, they were just completely red, both of them. Yeah, and I was like, I mean, he's bleeding pretty good. And uh all of a sudden I seen him, he's he I can see it hit the back of him starting to wobble, I can see he's starting to get woozy. I was like, I was like, oh yeah, he's he's going down, and then all of a sudden I just hear the I hear the the leaves, and I'm like, oh I'm like, I got him. Yep, but uh thank God for those sever 2.0s, man. Because I shot him with one of the hybrids, and it just I think I sent you guys the pictures of like the blood to like where I first hit him. I mean, it was just everywhere.

SPEAKER_03: 44:31

So yeah, that's the one thing I appreciate about severs, they just make everything bleed.

SPEAKER_01: 44:36

Yeah, like hard. There's literally, I mean, you I could literally stand there and just like you could see it. You didn't even have to like really record it. Yeah, I mean, it was it was crazy. So, you know, I called Squatch, I called Mike, called the wife and everybody, and I was like, we did it.

SPEAKER_02: 44:54

In what in what in what order? Now remember, this may this may get you in trouble because now we're gonna get in trouble. Mike Squatch wife, and then the wife. So the other question was the wife number three, and if she's anywhere near you and she's listening, you don't have to say it, you can just tell it twice.

SPEAKER_01: 45:15

Yeah, I'm I'm gonna plead the fifth on that guy.

SPEAKER_03: 45:22

Good call, good call.

SPEAKER_01: 45:23

Yeah, no, definitely, because like I know how like how she is. As soon as I told her, she was like, I I could hear my son on the phone, and he was he was like, Daddy got a buck, I wanna go get it. Tell him to, you know, I want to go track it, tell him don't go get it yet. So I was like, All right, like, you know, it's gonna take them like 10 minutes to get here anyway. Right. So I told her, I was like, listen, take your time because I gotta pack my stuff up. I'm not gonna rush to get down. And then it was just like it was awesome just having my son now showed him how to track everything, and even though it was super easy, but it it was it was awesome just to watch him. Daddy, there's blood here, daddy. There's blood. He's like, There's one way out there, daddy. I see it. Like, I see it too, man.

SPEAKER_02: 46:10

That's great. Those are the best moments.

SPEAKER_01: 46:12

You're you're like, wow, your eyes are really good. Yeah, I'm literally and I have uh I think it was um my wife sitting there, she's she's like, where's the deer at? I'm like, the deer's over there, you know. Like, you know, but uh it was cool just have him go up to it, and he was you know, he picked it up like he killed it, you know, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_02: 46:36

It's so funny because I I got to see him with the with the bear, and I don't know, it probably it listen, it's a bear at the end of the day, yeah. And he was it he was a little more shy with with the bear and everything like that. Um, I imagine with the deer, uh that's a just a now, it's such a normal thing for him now with the deer, uh seeing the deer and everything like that. But that was his first bear that he got to just see in in person and everything like that. And it's like, oh man, this this is this bear is like, what am I supposed to do, Daddy? Like, what and he he did not like he there's a he did not go next to the bear without Frankie or something like that, or versus the deer, like and I even saw the the the picture when you know you got you're starting to gut him open and and he's there helping you and everything like that. So it's yeah, that's absolutely incredible to see.

SPEAKER_01: 47:24

Yeah, no, it was it's it it makes me proud, man. Just seeing how like amped up he gets and everything because he was picking up the head, he was uh I got a video of him I gotta show you guys later. He's holding it like this, you know, like it's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02: 47:39

Well, he's practicing for for when he takes over the company of of Boondocks Hunting and replaces Frank. Um you know that that's his him and I's deal is that uh Frank is eventually gonna be fired um when he gets old enough to to take the reins and everything like that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:56

So um he just stole the beat to me already.

SPEAKER_02: 48:02

He's just practicing.

SPEAKER_01: 48:03

Yeah, yeah, man. It was it was awesome just to see how how pumped he got, and you know, them putting him on the four-wheeler, he's watching them, and you know, it was it was bittersweet, man, because I've been through it this year and to finally get one on the ground. And you know, besides the bear, like I was so excited to get the bear, but yeah, you know, I was I was a little bit, you know, still upset about the first bear, what happened, and yeah. I just got out there and just you know kept at it, and it was bittersweet to finally put put a nice one on the ground and see how he got it, made it all worth it, man. Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 48:45

What what age can Remy start hunting in New Jersey?

SPEAKER_01: 48:48

Ten.

SPEAKER_02: 48:49

Ten? Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 48:50

Yep. Yeah. So he'll he's got like five more years. He'll be five in December. So you know, but um my plan is um we're gonna find a spot so I can bring him next year, like the ground blind or something, because actually I have one of those um I think it's a gamekeeper or something. It's like a six-foot-high like ladder platform, and you can put the ground blind on top.

SPEAKER_05: 49:15

Oh, yeah, those are cool.

SPEAKER_01: 49:17

Yeah, so we're playing a to you know to um set that up next year and throw out some corn or something so he could see all the deer come in and eat, and he didn't get too bored too quick, you know.

SPEAKER_03: 49:29

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'll do. I had to do with my son. I handed him my phone, he's like, Can I watch something? I'm like, sure, buddy. Remember, you can't have any noise on it. And he's like, Okay, he had his head muffs on the whole time. Yeah, but I I would sit there looking at the corner of my eye, watching them. He would look at the at the little screen for like 30 seconds, then he would pick up and scan, and he would scan for for like a solid minute, and then he would just go like all right, and just go right back to his phone for like 30 seconds, pick his head back up and scan. I'm like, that this kid gets it.

SPEAKER_02: 49:59

Then there's a point he's like, Where the fuck are the deer?

SPEAKER_03: 50:02

He straight up, he literally looks at me like that. What where are the deer? I'm like, they're coming. He's like, they better. He just goes right back to his phone. I'm like, six-year-old just said you they better.

SPEAKER_01: 50:14

Like, yeah, yeah, that's right, son. So Karate's like, what spot did you take me to? Yeah, come on, dad.

SPEAKER_03: 50:26

Dude, better in this. Oklahoma was like spoiled, dude. I'm not kidding. In four days, it's all over a hundred deer. I was like freaking spoiled. Yeah, I was like, holy crap, I didn't expect that. But like when I come here, I'm like, I'm sitting down for the first time hunting with my son. I'm like, this sucks.

SPEAKER_02: 50:47

I I have a question. Like, so like for where you live, like what's the deer density? So, like, how much how much deer are you are you seeing typically? Because like here in Jersey, like, yeah, obviously, like the real thick stuff, you're probably not you're not seeing as much. There's a lot of deer around, but like for for us that are hunting swamps or like these really big thickets, like there's just so many deer that you don't see. But if you go anywhere that in Jersey that has any ag or open woods, like you are going to see a lot of deer like in these hunts. Um, you know what I mean? And I've even heard of some people that like they're just seeing 40, 50 deer on their on their farm private property, obviously, where you know they just get to see like all these all these deer and everything like that, and it's just like a a ridiculous thing. So is that kind of like what it what is it?

SPEAKER_03: 51:40

Yeah, it's the same, like when so we hit we don't have like a lot of underbrush, which is nice, but there's some areas where it's thick, and that's usually where I set up too, because I know they're gonna be bent down in there. But when it's the open woods, you'll see herds of like 10 deer just moving through, and you're you get the pick of a litter, and then there's times where you go there, you don't see anything for a month, and you're like, what is going on? Then all of a sudden they just pop back up again. You're like, Oh, I guess you just want to materialize right in front of me, right here. But it's just ridiculous, man. Like today I watched this buck, he was 200 yards. I did it, I did a grunt to see if it would catch his attention. And I saw him turn and turn his ears towards me, and I did like another quick little grunt. He's gone back to rubbing on the tree branch and everything, and then next thing you know, he's walking. I'm like, all right, where is he going? And he just turns towards me. I was like, Cool. Probably won't see a deer out there for probably another week. It's just weird like that sometimes. And then there's one week where you're just like looking left and right and they're everywhere, and you're like, I don't get it. But that's pretty much how it is here.

SPEAKER_02: 52:47

Yeah, no, I yeah, you you can get that because sometimes even some of the spots where it's like, where the hell are all the deer, man? Like it's it's it's crazy. Like sometimes they just like they're just gone, even from the cameras. Like, I'll tell you, since I killed my buck, and I've been uh relaxing since grinding since September 1st. I'll check them. I'll just check just to see like what bucks are were there and everything like that. Um, you know, obviously if people hit the camera, like I always make sure to to look at that just in case someone's trying to steal my camera. Speaking of that, is it a hunter? What happened?

SPEAKER_03: 53:24

Do you see like Jersey uh New Jersey shed hunter? He uh on Instagram, he caught this dude dumping his uh his feeder and breaking his feeder, and he like caught exactly who he was on camera. His name's Doug, and he's actually works for Fish and Wildlife, and he's fired, obviously. Oh I gotta I gotta find it. I gotta send it to you guys.

SPEAKER_01: 53:49

Yeah, and everything. I I must have missed it.

SPEAKER_03: 53:52

Yeah, I was just like, dude, like I messaged him, I was like, Is it this guy? Yeah, that's him. Yeah, yeah, I didn't see it. He put it was on his story, he literally made like a whole thing. He was like, This is not a promotional video for the fish and wildlife commission of New Jersey, and then it goes up to the guy that's like messed up his camera or messed up his uh feeder and everything. Like, this is Doug. Doug is an asshole, don't feel like Doug. But yeah, like I was like, good on you, man. So, like, yeah, they he took that video, went to uh the local police, and come to find out he works for a freaking fish and wildlife. Wow, yeah, like the guy like tried to apologize, like I don't give a shit, dude. Fuck you, like you broke my shit, and you you should know better. Like, that's your job, right? Like, I would have been like, dude, that's for you too, man. Like, you're mad that he found a good spot and you're dumping his stuff and breaking his his feeder. That for you, man.

SPEAKER_04: 54:53

And what does the squatch always say? Hunting brings the asshole out and everybody. It does, yeah. It really does.

SPEAKER_02: 55:00

It it it's it's crazy that it that it does. Um, you know, it's just one of those things where it's I don't know. I I just I I I don't get I mean, listen, I love hunting, and I I I think it it it tells you something about the sport of just like these animals just drive people crazy. And don't get me wrong, like we get we all get obsessed about it, but like yeah, never to the fact like I think it's listen, some people are just not raised correctly. Um, you know what I mean? At the at the end of the day, there are gonna be bad apples than anything. You could be a doctor, you could be whatever, right? But I think hunting really does bring out the the scumbag in peoples. And I think it's because there's a lot of people they see you're out in the middle of woods, oh no one's gonna know like that it was me really, you know, yeah taking stealing something or destroying something, or like, you know, oh, like just because I have this here, like this is my spot, like and this is claimed, unless it's private property, like that's that's not a thing, you know what I mean? Um you know, at the end of the day, like that's if you're hunting public land and anyone going out there on public land, that's something that comes along with it, and that's also why it's so important to me. Like, if you kill a good buck on public land, like I think that's more important and a tougher job than killing a giant buck on on private, just not only you have to deal with everybody else out there, you know. At the end of the day, it's not just you hunting this land, you know, and there's a lot of other things you gotta take into consideration with uh hunting public land, but I mean I don't want to get too much into it, but because I I don't know, but Kyle had a whole situation, and you know, I'll have uh hopefully we get him on to to tell the whole story, but it's absolutely just like wild encounter where someone crossed the line, like not like went like way across the line. And it all stemmed from a public land hunt. Um and like it it was absolutely crazy. Like I was get he was telling me in like real time basically of everything that was happening, and it's like people just I don't know, they just lose all sight when they when they you know when it comes to hunting big deer or big bears or or whatever it is, and it's it's absolutely sad.

SPEAKER_04: 57:25

A buddy of mine, he just got a ball peen hammer put through his back cap wind window yesterday. So a guy drove well they they were hunting a farm, he has permission to be on the farm. Other people wander in the farm, shot right next to him in his direction in the morning. When he left, he drove out past those guys with the truck and left. He came back that afternoon, they came back, and when he went, he shot a six-pointer, and when he went to go in his truck, he went to lift the cap uh, you know, back window open, and it was all busted, and there was a ball peen hammer through it. That's you know, it's just like you know, you gotta remember something. I mean, okay, people get on people's nerves, but we're hunters, we're all enjoying the same thing out there. Why are you going this route when there's no need to, and you're not even belonging there, and you shot unsafely at somebody. That's kind of like you know, that's why you got what you got.

SPEAKER_03: 58:34

So yeah, I uh I walked into my stand, it's on public land, it's a leaner. I just put it out there and there's a guy sitting in it. I don't have a problem with it, like at all. Like, I I walked up and I was like, hey, like I got up there with him, and he was like letting him know, like, hey, this is my stand. I was like, hey man, what's your phone number? I was like, so that way, like, we can coordinate. Like, if you want to use a stand, please do. Like, I'm this is public land, dude. This is my stand. If it's out here on public land, you can use it. He was like, Really? I was like, Yeah, man, absolutely. Like, we're all just trying to have fun out here. And he was like, dude, right on. So got his number, and he and I've been in touch now for probably beginning of October, no, beginning of September. He killed a hammer out of there, and I was fucking pumped for him. And I was like, hell yeah, dude. So I met him at the game shack and got some pictures for him and and posted it for him. Like, I was over the moon for him, and like I knew I wasn't gonna really, I don't really see much in that field, anyways. It's just like by chance, but yeah, I was I was pumped for him that he got that. And he was just really thankful that someone out there would actually just do that. I was like, Well, it's we're like you said, Squash, we're here just to enjoy this. Like, we're here for a short time, why not enjoy it? Instead of just like, get out of my stand, you asshole. Like, come on, man. Yeah, but now if it was like my climber, I'd be like, All right, come on, give me give me my climber.

SPEAKER_01: 59:56

Yeah, I think it was to me actually happened to me uh probab a couple years ago on federal land. Mike knows the story. Yeah, um, yeah. I was I went in, I had um had a set s uh set up, it was uh a lock on with the climbing sticks. So I wasn't able to hunt it for like a couple days due to work or whatever. So I finally get out of work. I I I actually I go there, I go to climb up in it. I probably got to like I think it was like the second, yeah, it was the second section before I realized somebody had pulled all all the pins out that connect the sections. Because this the bottom one sort of put like pulled out on me out of his sleeve and dropped, yeah, a little bit. And then when I looked all the way up the tree stand, I could see all the pins were gone.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:51

Yeah. Then there was that time Frank there was a time Frank was on public and somebody got in his saddle with him.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:58

Yeah. And it was you know what his name was? You'll never believe it. He he called himself the squatch. I don't know who the fuck. Oh what a loser. I'm like, who the fuck are you doing standing on my back?

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:12

Yeah, 450 frickin' pounds of me shoved in a fucking saddle and dude. That ain't gonna happen, bro. That ain't gonna happen. That's like trying to watch a wet safety come through the doggy door, man. That ain't gonna work.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:32

But all right, boys. I mean, I I think we're gonna end it there. I mean, we still got another great story for you guys um next week. We still got Craig. Um can't wait for that one. Uh unfortunately, you know, some some bad news over there. So we're we're praying for uh for him and it and it his family and everything like that. Um, so the whole team hopefully will be on next week for the first time, I think, since I don't even know when. Um draft? Yeah, probably. Um, you know, but you know, we're we're really looking forward to that and and really hearing Craig's story. I mean, um a guy well deserved, I mean just put everything into and really gambled on on himself and and his decisions through through the season, and you you love to see it pay off. And um, you know, we're we're really looking forward to that. And I I will tell you guys, like straight up, and this goes to to everything that we use here um in all our products and everything like that, from from rack getter to you know, hex to moultry to to all these different things. And you know, I I know um uh you know we use a lot of us use sever here, and some of the other guys use use, you know, use different arrows or broadheads and and love to to move around. Listen, I would love to get my hands on beast, I'm not gonna lie. As much as I love my my severs, uh they're as close as they can get to to sever. So I was I would like to get my hands on those at some point. But you know, we appreciate all the companies that really um work with us and you know help us through this through this process and everything like that. And for all our listeners and and followers out there, you know, we really do want to thank you guys. Um, you know, it does mean a lot to to all of us and everything like that, and the team that we've built here. And listen, one once we open up the field, field uh staff again, like if anyone really wants to join and and everything like that and come join a part of the family, you know, we'll we'd love to have you. I mean, it's been great having having the new guys on and everything like that, you know, especially you know, some of the guys picking up for uh Frank's uh slack over there of killing stuff compared to last year. You know, we had to have a new dominant killer in in the group. Um, you know, but it it's been an absolute pleasure. You know, the game dinner should be yet again getting announced, hopefully pretty soon. Yeah, we're we're getting worked on that um and all these different things. So, you know, everyone and rifle season's about to start. If it hasn't started already for you, it is literally on the doorsteps for for a lot of states. I know PA opens up, Jersey's gun season's about to open up, New York's opened, or is it opened, yeah, uh everything like that. Um, Zach, I imagine you guys will be probably if you haven't opened yet. We opened up, yeah. Okay, yeah. Delaware opened up. So be safe out there. Um, I know it's with with the rifles, it's a little bit different. Please just be respectful, watch what you do, and you know, we'll we'll see you guys. Uh we'll see you guys next time.

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Sweet.